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Updates, deals and new review items: PLxC RDB, Zeiss Tripod, etc

As the week is coming to an end, I find myself in an unusual place: home.

I plan to be home between now and September 1st when I have to go to Israel for ten days, returning on the 11th (dayjob stuff).

For the last couple of months, between family vacations, work and a couple of matches, it seems like I only spent enough time at home to check zero on my 6.5CM Fix and head out again (it has not shifted, thank you Area 419 mount).

I have a lot to do during the next two weeks, but I will try to take some pictures, film some footage and release it as I go along. I can edit videos on the plane or in Israel just about as well as I can at home.

While generally, I am very picky about what I accept for review (given my bandwidth limitations), I do have a few new things here worth talking about.

One is Primary Arms new PLxC RDB 1-8x24 LPVO. It is essentially a version of the original FFP PLxC LPVO except with different reticle illumination technology. The new model utilizes diffractive reticle illumination (same style as in NX8, ATACR and RG3) and to a similar effect. It is absolutely nuclear bright. The difference is that, if I am reading between the lines correctly, in the Nightforce and Vortex products, the illumination module comes from a Swiss company called IMT who pioneered this approach. However, their original patents have expired and it appears that LOW has figured out how to do it in-house. There is quite a bit of know-how involved in pulling it off and so far it is looking pretty good (there is at least one more LOW OEM'ed product with that illumination technology coming pretty soon). The original gun I planned to put it on is not yet built (waiting on a fast twist 5.56 barrel), so I'll do some optical tests in the meantime.
At first blush, it is looking very good and the new version of PA's BDC reticle is also a step in the right direction. It is a bit less busy with all the ranging hashmarks (that I have not yet had a need to use in years of shooting) being sufficiently far from center to be unobtrusive. I'll do a separate write up on the reticle. I have this complicated relationship with ACSS reticles. I like many of their low power designs, but most of their high mag reticles are not my cup of tea. However, I am definitely seeing steps in the right direction. I think PA is finding good ways to keep different segments of their customer base happy.
https://alnk.to/44YdzOa
At $1750 with RDB (Red Dot Bright) reticle illumination, it will give some larger competitors sweats, I think.

Moving on, Zeiss decided to come up with a line of tripods including a very clever double pull inverted leg tripod for competition. It is impressive. The spider kinda looks like Leofoto, so my best guess is that Leofoto OEMs it for Zeiss. However, this one is far more than just a re-badged Leofoto tripod. There is a lot of customization here and several new and very clever ideas incorporated. I did some basic drills with it and I am impressed. They sent me the whole kit to look at with two different heads, stabilizing base and different accessories. Unless something comes up that I am not anticipating, chances are I will be switching to this tripod. After all the matches and training I have done this year, I am putting together a tripod overview video, so there will be a lot more information out soon. Naturally, I'll do a specific video dedicaed to this tripod as well. I think they got the height just right. The head design is very clever (especially V60), and there are several other nice touches. Altogether, as far as match shooting goes, this might be the one to beat. I think it is the fastest tripod I have yet seen to deploy at just the right height without compromising stability.
https://alnk.to/2uJoKQD
It is big and beefy, so probably not what I would want to drag with me on a mountain hunt.
For hunting, I still have not found anything I like more than the Spartan Precision Ascent https://alnk.to/dAp8yi3, although I alternate between the head it comes with and Arca inverted ball head from Sunway (IB-30 https://sunwayfoto-store.com/products/ib-30p-inverted-ball-head-for-tripod-compatible-arca-swiss-picatinny-adapter-clamp-load-40lb18kg?ref=DLO )

I will also be talking a bit more about Sig P320 since I moved the Vortex Defender XL with the green dot onto it. I have a rather nice AXG Scorpion version of the P320.

I just received Armasight's Operator thermal clip-on and CO-LR night vision clip-on https://alnk.to/8iWp8YE to look at. I want to do a video with an overview of why thermal and night vision are different and I needed props. On a separate note, Armasight's new Operator 640 clip-on is looking quite impressive. The image sensor they use is made in France, but they put together the core and the rest of the clip-on by themselves in the US (from what I understand). Given that, $4k is pretty damn good. https://alnk.to/gVNxcWH

Another thing I've got going on sorta in parallel is that I wanted to glance at some inexpensive products for general hunting etc. I tend to lean toward higher end products most of the time and their price tags reflects that. Sometimes, it is worthwhile to take a sneak peak at what's happening on the inexpensive of side of things. I have things here from Winchester and Burris that will get some coverage. I'll likely raffle them off afterwards.

As far as deals go, there is quite a bit out there since the industry overall is kinda slow right now. If Democrats regain the Congress and/or White House, gun stores will be printing money again, but until then it is a buyer's market.

The flip side of that is that I am not really in need of anything specific, so for professional reasons I tend to pay more attention to new stuff than to whatever is on sale.

Still, I do pay attention.

With thermal optics, unsurprisingly, Steiner is probably the best bang for the buck going, especially if you like clip-ons. I think the demand for their C35 Gen2 clip-on https://alnk.to/dLjTybx got really hammered because there was no decent picatinny mount. Now that Annex has their mount in stock, it is easily the best bang for the buck going. https://annexdefense.com/steiner-nighthunter-gen-ii-picatinny-rail-mount/
Essentially, you get a an excellent 640x512 thermal with 35mm lens clip-on for $1600 and the mount for $140. My best guess is that if the mount is well received (so far it seems to be well liked), they will jack up the price of the clip-on back up pretty quickly.

If you want a standalone thermal, Steiner's S35 Gen2 is just under $2k: https://alnk.to/d3ERD1f

With conventional scopes, it looks like Midway has the 2-10x40 version of the Vortex Razor HD-LHT for $840 https://alnk.to/9TbdYsO I looked at a prototype of this scope a while back and thought it was excellent. At $840, if you are in need of a classic hunting scope, it is likely the best you are going to find right now. It does have side focus and reticle illumination set up for low light. For most other Vortex scopes, like the 4.5-22x50 HD-LHT https://alnk.to/hhD3aLA, you get 15% off with VTX0825.

Midway also has blem 4.5-18x52 Leupold Mark 4HD with PR1-Mil for $1200. That's a very good deal. https://alnk.to/dLjTysY

Primary Arms always has something interesting on sale. What jumped out to me this time is the PLxC 1-8x24 SFP LPVO with their fiber illuminated reticle. They offer $300 bonus bucks with it https://alnk.to/dAp8zHl

Last, but not least, it is often a good idea to check on the Closeouts page on Anarchy Outdoors website: https://www.anarchyoutdoors.com/closeout/?ref=fl0iza41
They usually have something interesting going on. I also tend to look to them for Area 419 products.

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Here is something a bit different for you.
I do not spend enough time on the more budgety side of things, so I am trying to rectify that.

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Tripods

If memory serves me right, I have been promising a reasonably comprehensive video on tripods and tripod use for a little while now. Well, this is not it.

I did try to get together a bunch of different tripod types that I have on hand and discuss what I like about them and what I do not like about them. Most importantly, I tried to explain why my preferences are the way they are.

If this topic is of interest, I'll expand more on it.

As is, my plan for the time being is to use the Zeiss Max Duty with the V-60 head for precision. https://alnk.to/4MDNfR0

It is a decidedly pricey option, but it is a very clever design. If I were to look for similar functionality at a lower cost, Sunway's T4030 with IB-60 inverted ball head is half the price https://sunwayfoto.com/products/sunwayfoto-ht4030cmi-inverted-leg-carbon-fiber-69-tall-load-66lb-30kg?ref=DLO&variant=46025667805342

If you want to go a little lighter, you can got for a leveling base. Alternatively, you can outfit the T4030 Sunway ...

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MPR-1D Reticle in Element Theos 2-10x42

Next week, I am on travel, but I did manage to finally sneak in a little range time this weekend. I shot a local PRS-style match with a semi-auto (that will eb a separate post), took a couple of new shooters for some basic training and generally tried to spend time outdoors.

One of the things I kept up with was the further evaluation of the Element Theos 2-10x42 MPVO riflescope https://alnk.to/2jPbb3d

At around $2500, it is a fairly pricey scope, but it does a couple of things that are not commonly available from most other MPVOs.

One of those things is the incorporation of diffractive reticle illumination.

That allows for a FFP reticle that is comfortably day bright, so that on low power when the reticle is fairly thin, you have a very pronounced aiming point within an open FOV. You can go pretty fast on 2x if you have a bright aiming point. Not as fast as on 1x, but quite fast. Still, I'd be inclined to use this scope on a DMR-ish AR with an offset RDS.

Now that I have a ...

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Merry Christmas and 2025 Optic Of The Year Poll

Merry Christmas, Y'all!

2025 is almost behind us.

I took a few days away from the screen to go play table tennis in Las Vegas and then spend a couple of days in visiting different parts of Antelope Canyon with my family. Didn't touch my computer for several days.
Sometimes, it is good to go away for a couple of days and clear my ahead. Technically, I am supposed to also head toward the mountains Dec 26th through 30th for my son's first elk hunt, but the little stinker decided to get sick, so we'll see how it goes. Hopefully, he will be better by Friday.

If all goes well, I hope to do one more livestream toward the very end of the year, reminisce about what happened and give some stuff away.

I had a chance to think a little bit about what I could possibly nominate to be the scope of the year.

This year was not rife with an overwhelming number of new optics and I am open to suggestions.

I list a few that I can think of in the poll below, but if you think something else deserves the nod, please note it ...

AR-15 Handguard POI Shift

If you remember, I mentioned a while back that I do not spend a whole lot of time watching Youtube videos. I sure as hell watched this one:

There are two potential types of POI shift here. The first one is what is mentioned in the video above. It is a shift in where the barrel is pointing when there is pressure applied to the handguard. I ran into this when I was doing an overview of a couple of handguards with full length integrated Arca rails:

I confirmed it during the last match when my 224V ended up with a different POI when shooting off of a bipod vs shooting off of the gamechanger.

I carefully examined different handguards I have and realized that they range from the very stiff OTP by Q to a noodle of a handguard like the one from ABC that is on my large frame AR in 243Win.

Q claims that their OTP handguard is the stiffest design currently available (they have a machine to test it). I ...

Thanksgiving smoothly transitions into Christmas...

The funny thing about discount season is that over the years it evolved from just a couple of days when people offer a little bit of a discount to beef up the year end bottomline (product line managers are usually incentivized if they hit a certain benchmark within a calendar year), to a fairly continuous of rolling discounts.

There are a few that caught my eye and thought would be worth bringing to your attention.

Tract Optics has 10% off on pretty much everything, including the 2.5-15x44 with the Eagleman reticle. For the money, that's easily one of my favourite riflescopes on the market today https://tractoptics.com/toric-uhd-30mm-2-5-15x44-ffp-illuminated-mrad-eagleman-long-range-hunting-rifle-scope/?ref=ILYAKOSHKIN

Palmetto is clearing out Pulsar's Talion XG35 for $2k. That's a very good price for a 640 core: https://alnk.to/fwuaNTA

If you need a simple and robust red dot for an AR carbine, they've got Sparc Solar for $90 https://alnk.to/cwVi83r

It also looks like they are clearing out several ...

Here is an interesting question I got after the last livestream
I do read all comments

I got an interesting question via Youtube after the last livestream.  Here is it is verbatim:

"Ilya I hope you read the comments. I’ve got an optics question that I can’t seem to find an answer to. 
In reference to competition style scopes. Ones that seem geared towards PRS or other similar styles of shooting. Is there some good reason that the manufacturers constantly put out stuff with a low end mag that is basically unusable? Weight? Clarity? Something else?
I’m thinking of things like the K540i, Vortex 6-36, Tangent, Zco. I’ve never seen anyone shoot these scopes below 10x and most of their reticles are completely unreadable at low magnification. Why not start the low end at something like 10x or 12x and use a similar or lower zoom ratio? A 10-30 seems much more useful in PRS compared to a 5-25 since it’s my understanding that a lower zoom ratio is easier to make."

The biggest reason is simply marketing.  People who actually compete are a relatively small minority.  They do not really need low magnification.  Most people who spend money on scopes are looking at specs and a large magnification ratio is more marketable.  There are of course other practical reasons too.

When you design a riflescope, you are generally trying to hit multiple birds with one stone.

For example, if you want it to appeal to some potential military contracts, you need some sort of a viable low magnification to use with clip-ons.  Many of the clip-ons available to the military work pretty well on higher magnifications, but they generally want to have low pwoer in the 4x to 7x range.

As far as the reticle not being usable on low power, that is a consequence of making reticle very thin for use on high power.  This is also where military applications and civilian competition applications have different needs.  More military oriented reticles tend to be slightly thicker and I often prefer those.  

However, the simple truth is that reticle illumination pretty much solves that problem nicely since most low power use is in low or fading light.

The extended range features of a reticle (christmas tree, etc) seldom come into play in low light, so if the reticle simply has something like an illuminated cross, it works very well.

For what it is worth, even in daylight, I shoot my Tangents below 10x all the time, though not much belwo 10x.  In NRL Hunter matches, for example, since I am pretty new at this and have a hard time finding the plate, I figured out during my very first match that keeping my 7-35x Tangent on 9x, really helps me get behind the rifle quickly and get it stable quickly.  As I got a little better at getting into a proper shooting position efficiently, I bumped it up to about 12x.  When practicing, I routinely keep magnification low when shooting off of props.  When I am not pressed for time and shoot a bit further out, I'll bump up the magnification a little to have a better look at the mirage.  However, I virtually never shoot above 20x unless I am screwing around with some very small targets at close ranges (like the 1/4" hanger on the KYL rack) which is mostly done with rimfires and airguns.

Moving on.... a few years ago when I was chatting with a guy who designs riflescopes for a living, I asked him that the ideal magnification ratio is, where you have a good enough magnification range without any really significant optical compromises.  He said that it is right around 5x, i.e. 5-25x, 7-35x, etc.  When riflescope optical systems are designed, they are not all ground up designs.  For example, you can take a well worked out erector system and use it in a range of scopes.  LPVOs are a little different, but you can use more or less the same erector and eyepiece for several different designs: 2-12x, 3-18x, 4-24x, 5-30x can have very significant part commonality.  Noone is itching to design a standalone 3x erector just for the highest magnification scope because it just adds extra cost and might not offer any advantages beyond potentially slightly lighter scope and somewhat easier assembly/alignment.  

The idea of a competition dedicated high power riflescope that is 10-30x or something along those lines comes up every few years as does the concept of a dedicated 14x fully optimized for matches.  Every time, it fails the basic test of economics: how much will it cost to develop vs how many you might sell.

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Zenith Rifle by Alpine Riflecraft
First Look at The Ultimate Mountain Rifle

As many of you are likely aware, I am heading out to Montana for a mule deer hunt in a few days.  I will also have an additional cow elk tag, since I did not draw anythign in New Mexico.

My original plan was to borrow one of the MegaFix prototypes from Q.  However, all three properly fucntioning prototypes of the MEgaFix they have are in Africa taking down a broad range of animals.  The way I go hunting usually involves two rifles.  One primary, which is typcially something I am doing an article on and one backup which is something I know works in case I need it in a pinch.

My backup rifle is the OG Fix chambered for 308Win.  You have seen this gun many times over the years.  It was the subject of a dedicated video.  

I hunt with it and occasionally shoot NRL Hunter matches with it (shot two this year).  

As configured, it clocks in at a bit under 11lbs with the scope, https://alnk.to/af179CG, bipod, full length Arca rail from Sawtooth and LSP vertical grip.  I could make it a little lighter, but after some consideration, I decided to keep it in this configuration.  Eventually, I will upgrade it to Area 419 rings (I have been slowly switching to them almost across the board), but beyond that I plan to do absolutely nothing with it until I finally shoot the barrel out.  Ammo is a different ballgame and I am about to embark on an experiment with NAS3 cases, but that's a story for another day.

I still wanted somethign new to test, so I reched out to my Guns & Ammo editor to see if he has any ideas.  He usually does and this case was not the exception.  He connected me with a gentleman who owns a Canadian company called Alpine Riflecraft.  They are on a mission to make the world's best mountain hunting rifle and the Zenith is the product of their efforts.

I have now spent a couple of days at the range with it and have some early impressions to share.

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Reference Standard, 2025
Quite a few changes

 

As a reminder, the plan is to choose scopes as my reference standards in a few categories and make sure I keep them on hand for at least a year or so.  If they move on somewhere, I have to designate something else as the reference standard in that category.  There might be a couple of reference standard designs in each category to split them by price range.

Here is the riflescope categorization that I like to use https://darklordofoptics.locals.com/post/5212669/riflescope-type-classification 

Do keep in mind, that some categories I am not as well versed in as I'd like to be.  Also, there might be scopes in each category I consider exceptional, but do not have on hand.  Reference standard has to be something I have here and will use as a basis for comparisons.  I will endeavor to use optics that I believe to be at the top of their category, but it is not always possible.  Natirually, these will lean heavily toward mrad designs.  I avoid MOA like the plague whenever possible.

 

Fixed 1x
Interestingly, I do not actually have any 1x prismatics at the moment.  However, a friend of mine inherited the PA GLx 1x and my brother has Primary Arms SLx 1x Microprism.  https://bit.ly/3uLqu0E I Most of the differences between modern 1x prismatics come down to reticles and eyebox.  On balance, GLx is probably the yardstick for the rest of them.

 

Fixed mag small prism
No changes here.  This can go in a variety of different directions depending on personal preferences and price.  It is not practical to have a reference standard for every magnification and with compact prismatics I do like 3x as a good compromise magnification.  These scopes are a step up from people who have been using red dots with magnifiers and want a better experience at distance.  This one will also go to Primary Arms.  Technically, I like GLx 2x more than SLx 3x, but 2x is such a unique magnification that it is not a very good yard stick for comparisons.  SLX 3x Microprism it is, then.  

 

Fixed mag large prism

Somewhat oddly, with large prism scopes, I start leaning toward higher magnifications.  I want these in 4x or 5x.  I view these differently.  These are, to me, alternatives to LPVOs and spiritual successors of old general purpose 4x and 6x fixed power scopes, except more compact and with wider FOV.  There a couple of good options and, unsurprisingly, my favourites are Element Immersive 5x30  and the discontinued Elcan Spectre OS 4x.  The dual power Spectre DR is still thriving, as expensive as it is.    I have the single magnification 4x and it is a very good yardstick for what a high end prismatic should be.  With the Element, I am clearly biased since I designed the reticle for it.  In other words, I got to put a reticle I could not get other people to make into a scope I like.  You should not be terribly surprised to see it here.

 

LPVO

This one gets tough and there will be several options here.  Keep in mind that I like FFP LPVOs once we get up in price.  One of the reasons it gets tough is that as I keep putting together ARs for various family members, different LPVOs I have tend to migrate elsewhere.

With budget LPVOs, for now, I think Primary Arms SLx 1-6x24 with Nova reticle is the one to beat, but I no longer hae one here.  I should probably get another one and keep it here for comparison purposes.

On the mid-range, it is a battle between SAI6 1-6x24 with mrad reticle and the new PA PLxC 1-8x24 with day bright reticle illumination.  With PA, the reticle got a bit better sicne they went to diffractive illumination, but I would prefer a short mil tree of some sort.  It is light and short with an excellent eyepiece.  With SAI6, I like the whole reticle line-up but lean toward the mrad designs for general purpose use.  The X-Wing style high visbility feature is not for everyone, but it works for me.  I suppose I will keep both here.  

If you go up in price, my basic opinion has not changed.  Vortex Razor Gen3 1-10x24 is the one to beat if you want a nuclear bright reticle.  However, the notably less expensive PA PLxC with RDB reticle is absolutely giving it a run for its money.  The mrad reticle in the Vortex is more my cup of tea, though.

This leaves a little of a "no-man's land" with LPVOs that are designed to be true general purpose designs, like the side focus equipped March Shorty 1-10x24 and Delta Stryker 1-10x28.  They are a little too different to serve as a useful yardstick for anything but each other.  I ended up keeping the Delta.  Side focus really helps behind clip-ons.

 

Dangerous Game

I may have to skip one because I do not really have anything on hand right now (rifle-wise) that fits the description.  If I were to buy one, let's say a traditional 375H&H or 416Rigby, it would get Primary Arms' PLxC 1-8x24 SFP with fiber reticle.  In case it has not come through too well, I really like the PLxC line-up.

 

MPVO

For the time being, the one to rule them all is the dual focal plane March 1.5-15x42 https://bit.ly/4bjm15X  This category, almost by definition, is the one where compromises are made for the most flexibility.  This March is not perfect, but it is the best we currently have.  On the budget end, the yardstick should be Athlon's excellent Helos BTR Gen2 2-12x42, but it is sitting on top of a friend of mine's rifle two states to the West.  It can't be a reference standard if it is not here.  In the meantime, the old reliable SWFA SS 3-9x42 will do.  I have a couple of them.  https://swfa.com/swfa-3-9x42-ss-hd-mil-quad-reticle-30mm-tube-1-mil-clicks-ffp/

There is a big gap between a $600 SWFA and a $3100 March.  In the mid-range, Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42 with STR-Mil reticle is easily my favourite.  If I were going to have only one MPVO and I was payign for it out of my own pocket, Steiner would probably be it, so it is staying here.

 

Tweener

I do not like to use a discontinued scope as a yardstick, but Razor HD LH 1.5-8x32 has got to be it.  It is not a common scope category, so we will hoble along like this until I come up with something still manufactured (that fits the profile and I like).  On the low-ish end of the price range,  I do like SWFA 2.5-10x32 Ultralight and have a couple of them.  https://swfa.com/swfa-2-5-10x32-ss-ultralight-msr-556-bdc-reticle-1-tube-25-moa-clicks/ 

GPO makes a 1.5-9x32, but I do not have one.

 

Crossover

For once, this one is easy and I'll keep it all within a sane-ish price range.  Vortex Razor HD-LHT 4.5-22x50 and Delta Stryker 3.5-21x44 https://annexdefense.com/delta-stryker-hd-3-5-21x44-rifle-scope/ are the purest expressions of the crossover idea I have seen to date, this side of Tangent TT315M that you will see a couple of categories down.

 

Traditional Hunting

This get difficult again because it is not a type of a scope that is common around these parts and the ones I look at do not stick around too long.  I simply happen to be an FFP guy.  However, some hunting scope articles are very much overdue and I do have an excellent Delta Titanium 1.5-9x45.  In sticking with sane prices, let's add Tract Toric 2.5-15x44 with illuminated reticle to this list. 

These two should give me a decent ability to compare.  On the high end, there is the rather remarkable Tangent Theta Long Range Hunter that is the one to beat which is why it is not going anywhere.

 

General Purpose Practical Precision

Given how much this crosses over with, pun intended, crossover designs above, I could have merged them into signle category.  It would make too much sense so here we are.  Tangent Theta TT315M 3-15x50 is still it to me.  It does have limited elevation travel, so you have to be somewhat careful with how you mount it (in extreme cases, Burris XTR Signature rings where you can use their inserts to adjust slope may be needed).   Still, I have found nothing better yet.

If you want something more reasonably priced, I am going to go with the Telson Toxin 3-18x50 which repalces the very nice Burris XTR3i 3.3-18x50.  Both are very solid scopes, but Telson reticle has better visibility and it controls flare a little better.

 

Long Range Practical Precision

I might catch a lot of flack for this one, but so be it.  

High end: There are several spectacularly capable options, but there is a reason I shoot with the different Tangent Thetas, 5-25x56 and 7-35x56

Best bang for the buck on the high end: Vortex Razor Gen3 6-36x56 https://alnk.to/74xn2BV

Mid-range: Delta Stryker 4.5-30x56 (there is a bunch of simlar scopes in this category and I happen to have this one) and Burris XTR PS 5.5-30x56.  I think the heads up display in the XTR PS is a meangful innovation and is the way of the future.

Budget long range: Meopta Optika6 5-30x56 is a pretty decent scope and the one I have(again, there are several to choose from that are similar, but this one is on hand).  Unfortunately it is discontinued.

DNT The One 7-35x56 is easily one of the better budget options and it is here for now.  I am not sure if I will use the DNT as the reference standard since I have a couple of other heading this way that might occupy this role.  I'll know soon.

 

Short Range Target:

I'll have to skip this one for now since I do not do anything along these lines.  The closest I get is my rimfire trainer and I use Vortex Razor Gen3 on that rifle with good success.

 

Long Range Target:

Ditto.  It is not a category I look at much, so I do not have anything on hand that will fit.  I will rectify that.  Until then, the best paper shooting scope I have and intend to keep is March 5-42x56.  It bridges several categories nicely since it is FFP, but it pulls target shooting duty for me.  If I decide to do a comparison review on target scopes, this March will serve as the reference standard.  https://bit.ly/3TdABox

Field Target:

I do not have a Field Target setup, so this category is going to be skipped for now.  Hopefuly, not for too long.  If I were to start shooting Field Target, I'd be using the 5-42x56 March mentioned above.

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