DarkLordOfOptics
Politics • Science & Tech • Sports
SunwayFoto TT-2650 Tripod with XB-25 ballhead
later re-fitted with Field Optics FPH-105 head
August 01, 2024
Guest contributors: Inekk
post photo preview

Background:  I have a lot of tripods and not a lot of time.  Back in 2023 I needed a small lightweight tripod to use for photography during SHOT, so I picked up SunwaFoto's TT2650.  It worked beautifully.  Equally importantly, it folded up into a pretty tiny space for travel.  It is too small of a tripod to use for heavy weapon support, but, on the other hand, if I were out hunting and needed to take a sitting shot, I bet it would be much better than handholdign the rifle.  Still, it was of most interest to me as a tripod for photography and observation, so outsourced the important task of beating it up to my brother.  He does a good bit more photography off of the tripod than I do.

Here are his impressions.  Other than correcting a few spelling mistakes, I did not editorialize anything in there.   If you see something italicised, that's my commentary.

The tripod runs about $170.  You can get 5% off with code DLO.  

https://sunwayfoto-store.com/products/tt2650ce-5-sections-carbon-fiber-travel-tripod-for-ipad-phone-dslr-camera-small-and-flexible-with-25mm-ball-head?ref=DLO

 

SUNWAYFOTO TT-2650CE Tripod with XB-25P ballhead included


The carbon fiber tripod is a great option for photographers, travelers, and media professionals who need a lightweight and sturdy support for their cameras and other equipment. One such example of a small carbon fiber tripod is the SUNWAYFOTO TT-2650CE Tripod. It’s designed to support small cameras, such as mirrorless cameras or ‘mini DSLRs’. I am very impressed by the outstanding build quality.

The SUNWAYFOTO TT-2650CE is made of high-quality carbon fiber, which makes it lightweight and durable. The aluminum parts of the base are CNC machined with hard anodized finish. At just 1lbs 12.7oz (891gm), it is easy to carry around and pack in a suitcase or a backpack. The carbon fiber wall of the legs is only 1mm thick, helping to keep the weight down.  The largest tube is only 26mm in diameter.  The SUNWAYFOTO TT-2650CE has 5 section legs that can be extended to a maximum height of 60.2 (153cm) inches without the ballhead. The provided ball head (XB-25P) adds 2 more inches to the maximum height. The ballhead connects to the central column by a standard 3/8” mounting screw.

The legs do not have an interchangeable foot system, but soft and round rubber feet seemed to have good grip on any surface I encountered so far, including carpet, table surfaces, marble floors, gravel, and regular ground.  Without extending the legs the tripod looks and works perfectly as a table tripod.

The legs have a twist lock mechanism for each leg, and it is simply amazing in my opinion.  I had some experience with this mechanism in an old aluminum Velbon tripod that I bought about 11 years ago.  Sunwayfoto’s version takes it to the next level (or two!).  It feels crisp and precise. It is by far the fastest way to extend and collapse the legs.  In my hands with minimal practice, it takes under 10 seconds from pulling the tripod out of the backpack’s side pocket to the working configuration with three legs and central column fully extended. This is far less time than any other leg locking mechanism I ever tried. 

The central column has an aluminum part 1.75” (4.5cm) that connects to the ball head and a removable carbon fiber portion of the center column where the counterweight hook is attached.  Removing the central column allows for low angle shots. The counterweight hook can also be removed from carbon fiber part of the column and attached directly to the short aluminum portion, although this feature was not useful in my experience.  The only time I needed to remove the central column was to shoot from low angle, so there was no way to hang anything under the tripod.  The QR plate of the ball head sits at just 5” (12.5cm) in the lowest possible configuration. The angle lock allows for three working angles (23°/55°/85°) and complete inversion to minimize the length for packing as described next.  The tension of the angle mechanisms is adjustable and can be tightened and loosened depending on one’s need.

One of the standout features of the SUNWAYFOTO TT-2650CE is its compact size when folded up. To make the tripod most compact the legs can fold up around the extended central column bringing dimensions of the folded tripod to 13.8” (350mm) long and 3.9” (99mm) in diameter.  In my experience this was beneficial for packing it in a suitcase.  While walking around I found that keeping legs collapsed without inverting them worked perfectly well.  In this configuration the height was 15.5” and the tripod stayed secure in the side pocket of my PD backpack.  Fully extended legs bring the height to 4’ 2”. In this configuration it felt as steady as most of the larger tripods I have.  To bring the height to the max 5.02’ (153cm) the central column needs to be extended.  The tripod can hold up to 6.6 pounds (3kg), which is plenty for modern mirrorless cameras or small SLRs. In real life use, the tripod did not seem to have any issues with supporting Nikon D7200 with Sigma 150-500mm telephoto lens AND Peak Design backpack hanging on Counterweight Hook underneath the central column.

The SUNWAYFOTO TT-2650CE also has two additional ¼” sockets at sides of the base plate where any attachment for a light, phone, or any other accessory can be attached.   DP-26R OR Plate is tiny.  It fit perfectly to my smallish Nikon Z-50 and lives there permanently now.  The tripod also comes with a carrying pouch, which is a nice touch.

Here is the complete list of everything that comes in the package:

·       TT2650CE Tripod

·       XB-25P Ballhead

·       DP-26R OR Plate

·       Camera Screw

·       TN-1 Bushing

·       4mm Wrench

·       2.5mm Wrench

·       2mm Wrench

·       Cleaning Cloth

·       Protective Bag

·       User Manual

 

In conclusion, the SUNWAYFOTO TT-2650CE is a great option for photographers, travelers, and media professionals who need a lightweight and sturdy support for their cameras and other equipment. Its compact size, high-quality carbon fiber construction, ultra-fast leg extension and versatile features make it a great choice for anyone in need of a reliable and portable tripod.

 

Summary for TT2650CE An ultra-light and slim stand, perfect for smaller DSLR cameras and mirrorless cameras

·       Net Weight - 891g/2lb

·       Main Material - Carbon Fiber

·       Folded Length - 35cm/13.8in

·       Folded Diameter - 99mm/3.9in

·       Load Capacity - 3kg/6.6lb

·       Max Height - 153cm/60.2in

·       Min Heigh - 13cm/5.1in

·       Platform Diameter - 36mm/1.4in

·       Tube Diameters - 26/23/19/16/12mm

·       Leg Angles - 23°/55°/85°

·       Mounting Screw - 3/8"

·       Feet Material - Rubber

 

Pros:

·       Ultra-fast Twist-Lock leg extension mechanism

·       Made of carbon with compact, but sturdy ball head

·       Small pack size

·       An extendable and removable central column

Cons:

·       No integrated monopod

·       No interchangeable feet

·       Slightly shorter than would be optimal for people over 5’7” or so.

 


The little Sunway 2650 remained in use after those initial impressions.  Then, in 2024, it ended up going to another trip or two where the photography requriements changed.  That requried a different camera setup.  With a larger telephoto lens, we went and swapped out the head to the tiny FPH-105 panhead from FIeld Optics Research.  The biggest difference is that with telephoto lenses you often need to make very small angular changes and those are often hard with a ballhead.  This same consideration applies to spotting scopes and high magnification binoculars.   Personally, since I always have recoil in mind, I am very partial to Field Optics' ULP head https://www.fieldopticsresearch.com/shop/Heads--QR-Plates/p/Ultra-Low-Profile-Pan-Head---ULP-G2-x51054447.htm
However, the tiny FPH-105 does have a little more range of motion ond worked beautifully for my brother. Frankly, for $65 it costs, this is an amazing little panhead.
https://www.fieldopticsresearch.com/shop/Heads--QR-Plates/p/MicroPAN-Head-x68301366.htm

Here are his thoughts after swapping out the tripod head and a couple more trips.

 

2024 Update

I got to test SUNWAYFOTO TT-2650CE in real travel environment last year when we went for a two weeks family road trip around Iceland.  It stayed with me on pretty much every hike we did until I pulled my hamstring and spent the last few days… not hiking…

In 2024 we went a short trip to the Oregon coast.  We went on a few hikes along the beaches and small towns.   This time I had with me my longest lens set up: Fujifilm XT-5 + 2X teleconverter + FUJINON  XF100-400mmF4.5-5.6 R LM OIS WR.  I got used to taking PeakDesign Everyday Messenger, and carry this relatively heavy combination on short hikes. The maximal focal length with this set up is 400 x1.5 x2 is 1200mm!  Amazingly hand holding this with XT-5’s IBIS is possible, but not practical… And very tiring.  You just naturally want to lean on something…  Even if you don’t have arthritis in your wrists…  yet…. So, lightweight TT2650CE was a no brainer addition to stick into the Everyday Messenger.  This past winter I also got an amazing ultracompact video head (FPH-105) from Field Optics.  My brother is kind enough to let me try out his gear, and this combination seemed just about perfect.

I am 6’ 1”, and the ONLY Con I see is that it’s just a bit shorter than I’d like.  Maybe 5-7” taller would be perfect… I did not really see any other cons.  The Field Optics FPH-105 video head is naturally not capable of tilting sideways and it allows mounting XF-100-400 lens immediately above the center column. Of Arca Swiss 38mm QR plate It makes having a heavy gimbal head or (what I used extensively with longer focal length lenses - Induro GHBA Gimbal that could work with any ballhead that is sturdy enough to keep it from slipping).  In the beginning of my experiments with telephoto I would simply turn the ball head’s stem 90 degrees to the side and rotate the collar on the lens 90 degrees, but it just did not seem stable, especially with light tripods.  Call me paranoid but suspending $2500 like this kept me from enjoying the experience.  This time the FPH-105 video head provided nice stability at a fraction of weight (9.0 oz) and it’s 7 lb load capacity was just enough to support my setup.  2.5" height above the top of the central column was about the same as the XB-25P ballhead.  I must admit that I always hanged my bag on the hook at the bottom of the central column for stability, and it seemed very stable.  I would not do this in Iceland where the winds on the coast were insane!  I think some common sense will keep your gear safe: if the wind is blowing you off your feet, leaving your gear on tripod is not good idea.  In Oregon, ocean breeze did not concern me, and the rig worked perfectly!

I think this combo would be a great option for photographers, travelers, and media professionals who need a lightweight and sturdy support for their cameras and other equipment. Its compact size, high-quality carbon fiber construction, ultra-fast leg extension and versatile features make it a great choice for anyone in need of a reliable and portable tripod.  If you feel that you absolutely must have a ballhead on your tripod for the challenging leveling situations, such as macro photography, I still had tiny Sunwayfoto’s XB-25P ballhead in my pocket!  It’s also very light, but I did not have to switch it out even once. 

 

In conclusion, this Ultra compact, lightweight combo turned out highly portable and functional with telephoto lenses. I confidently added this tiny video head to my travel bag.  I would get a set of legs for stationary shooting, such as birding at Socorro Festival of Cranes, for example, but for the hiking this combo punches way above it’s cost…

 

 

 

 

community logo
Join the DarkLordOfOptics Community
To read more articles like this, sign up and join my community today
1
What else you may like…
Videos
Posts
Articles
Del Norte Black Rifle Match Drone Footage:" Stage 1

Here is what Stage 1 looked like. This was the only stage where I timed out, largely because I fumbled on a mag reload and struggled with a trigger a bit on longer distance offhand shooting. That was a shame because otherwise this was a stage where I could do decently.

The gentleman in the video is Parker Tomasi. He is the owner of a local shooting facility and event center called Legacy Ranch. I think he had the high score on this stage.
https://lrshooting.com/
Parker is a retired Marine Corp officer (Major, I think), a very good shooter and a genuinely pleasant human being. He was in my squad at this match last year.

Drone footage is courtesy of Montana Blaze
https://www.instagram.com/montana.blaze/

00:01:54
Del Norte Black Rifle Match Drone footage

There was a gentleman with FPV drone getting some footage of every stage.
To my surprise, he just sent the videos out to everyone who shot the match.
Here is me lumbering my way through Stage 2. I'll look through other videos as time allows and upload a few more from other stages with more competent shooters.

Funny thing is that while I knew the drone guy was around, I have no recollection of him flying the drone while I was shooting. Even this minimal amount of stress induces some measure of tunnel vision.

00:02:30
2026 Del Norte Black Rifle Match Video

Here is the video of the stages we shot. There are two clips for Stage 8. These were a bit tricky to record without a drone, the way the 180 deg zones worked out.

00:09:47
2 hours ago

What are your thoughts on Warne mounts? Warne probably makes the PA GLx mounts. Would it be a good idea to upgrade to Reptilia? Thanks!

October 26, 2026

Good deal now for the PA 1.5-12x. $1700 with $300 Bonus Bucks.
https://alnk.to/4MFO2Oc mrad version
https://alnk.to/fSly11C BDC version

Structured Barrel AR: More Changes

Well... since 2027 NRL Hunter season is not looking great, I gave up and stopped trying to shoehorn my large frame structured barrel gasser into the 16lbs weight limit.

That produced some very positive results, because now I've got a Tangent 5-25x56 on it and all is right with the world.

While I was at it, I also got the new Element Seeker WMLRF on there which is really growing on me. Getting it sighted in took a grand total of eight minutes and it seems to be staying sighted in through multiple removals from the rail. So far so good. In terms of bang for the buck, Element has a lot to offer and the user interface is easily one of the better ones I have seen on a WMLRF to date.

I tried to adjust the gas system on my structured barrel and managed to completely strip one of the set screws. It is no longer a fully tunable gas block, so I went and swapped out the suppressor to a 30cal model which results in a bit less backpressure than a dedicated 6.5 can I had on there before.

It is ...

Taking another stab at a general purpose rifle
What does "GP Rifle" mean to you?

Every once in a while I go back to an idea of a general purpose rifle and massage it a little.

I suspect that the reason I keep on coming back to it is that many years ago I read a good number of Colonel Cooper's work and always thought that his idea of a scout rifle was very interesting.

In a nutshell, Cooper's scout was a bolt action rifle of less than 40" long, chambered for 308Win or similar, set up with a scout scope (he seemed to like to use stripper clips and needed access to he action) and a Ching sling.  It was supposed to be capable of hunting animals the size of a cow elk out to 400 yards while weighing in at less than 8lbs.  

Fixed power scout scopes are very light, so that weight was achievable.

While I like scout scopes, conventional LPVOs and MPVOs knock the socks off any scout scope in terms of real world performance, so I am willing to accept a little extra weight.

On top of that, I am a firm believer that all rifles should be suppressed, which adds length.

Then, there is the case or various modern attachments that did not really exist when the good Colonel was refining his concept.  While I do not need a thermal clip-on to be on the gun all the time, I do want the capability of adding one in.

Last consideration is whether to go with a bolt-gun or semi-auto.  

I have been pursuing this "General Purpose Rifle" concept for quite a long time.  That was the reason I bought my original Fix boltgun.  I thought of it as a conceptual reincarnation of the scout idea.
My original Fix started life configured with a 16" 308Win Barrel.  It was light, handy and awesome.  This was the exact configuration except with the full length rail: https://eurooptic.sjv.io/k4EvKx

Then, I succumbed to temptation and swapped that 16" Bartlein barrel for a 24" carbon fiber Proof barrel in the same caliber.  It is still my favourite gun of all I have.  I have taken precision classes with it, hunted with it and shot matches with it, but it is no longer a scout rifle.  The barrel and suppressor together add up to more than 30".  It is not very heavy, but it is also not very short.

For a little while, I had another Fix configured with a 16" barrel and chambered for 8.6BLK.  It is an incredibly versatile cartridge and that was a perfect scout rifle.   I shot a cow elk with it at 338 yards to prove the concept.  

Since it worked really well and I can't leave anything well enough alone, I took it apart when I started shooting matches and rebuilt it as 22" 6.5CM precision rifle that you have seen in many pictures since.
The other idea I had was to see what can be done with a truly short barrel, so I built myself another 8.6BLK Fix (I really like these guns, in case you havn't caught onto that yet) around an 8" barrel I already had.  It is surprisingly capable with supersonic ammo and exceedingly handy.  I have not yet decided whether I am willing to shoot a cow elk at 400 yards with it, but I am taking it on an axis doe hunt in a couple of weeks.

When Cooper first defined his scout concept he was not opposed to semi-auto platforms per se, but has some misgivings on whether they can be made sufficiently accurate and reliable.

Technology keeps getting better though and when Q announced their Boombox semi-auto in 8.6BLK, there was a faint echo of "is this my modern scout rifle?" reverberating in far reaches of my brain.

Compared to the Fix with the same length barrel, the Boom Box is about a pound heavier and does everything very well.  Mine has been perfectly reliable.  Primary Arms PLxC 1.5-12x36 is a perfect match for its general purpose nature.  https://alnk.to/b7D6rbe

Together with the suppressor and a flashlight, the Boombox clocks in at just under 11lbs.  If I drop a thermal clip-on (usually Leica https://eurooptic.sjv.io/PO317X ), it is a bit over 12lbs

It is, however, even more expensive than the Fix.  While Boombox price is comparable or lower than that other semi-auto rifles of comparable quality (Seekins SP10M, etc https://eurooptic.sjv.io/n4x64A , it is still a lot of money.  As much as I hate to admit it, it is kinda difficult to say with a straight face that a gun that has a price tag that makes the vast majority of gun enthusiasts' hearts skip a beat is any sort of "General Purpose".  As configured above, it is over $7k (before you add the thermal).

That made me step back for a moment and remember that there are three commercially available scout rifles out there and it so happens I have pretty good familiarity with all three.  The least expensive ones are from Ruger and Savage.  They have had a few iterations over the years, but you can generally pick one up for somewhere in the $700 to $800 range chambered for a few different cartridges, 308Win and 6.5CM among them.  They work well enough, but they are not what I would call polished.  Still, if price is part of the equation, these are nicely robust and very "general purpose" guns.  I have seen quite a few people use them as truck guns.

I have set up a couple of these for my friends over the years and have no complaints of how well they perform for the money.  I think Mossberg also makes their own variant that is even less expensive, but I have no experience with it.

Neither Savage nor Ruger, however, is the original scout.  Cooper made several prototypes and then teamed up with Steyr to make a commercially available scout rifle.  The first Steyr scout rifle became commercially available in the 1990s right around the time I was becoming interested in firearms.  It was far out of reach of a broke college student and then my priorities shifted.

Price-wise, Steyr scout usually clocks in somwhere in the $1600 to $2000 price range.  While not inexpensive, it is closer to the Savage/Ruger/Mossberg than it is to the Fix and the Boombox.  I think I'll go ahead and decree that it then qualifies as a general purpose rifle.

Rather importantly for me, it has a longer top rail than any of the less expensive options offering significant flexibility.  It also has a simple bipod built into the stock and exta magazine storage in the buttstock.  

All of that is nice, but more importantly, Steyr's SBS action and hammer-forged barrel are absolutely world class.

I am planning to take it with me on a hunt in a couple of weeks (I am going for axis deer and bringing three new hunters to hunt hogs on the same property).  I have four rifles to set up and one of them is the Steyr Scout in 6.5CM.  Since I also have a Leupold Mark 5HD 2-10x30 to test, I needed to go sight it in with hunting ammo.  I did not have time to shoot longer shot strings (that thin barrel needs time to cool), but here are three shots at 100yards using Hotline Munitions'124gr VLR4 ammo https://discreetballistics.com/shop/hotline-munitions-6-5-creedmoor-124gr-hunting/

Three shot groups do not tell the full story how accurate the rifle really is, but this is an indication that the mechancial accuracy of this gun is rather promising.  At some point, I will explore it more carefully, but for the time being this is plenty for shooting hogs inside of 200 yards.

As configured, this rifle clocks in at 10.2lbs with the optics, suppressor, two empty magazines and sling:

While I am testing the Mark 5HD 2-10x30 with CMR-MIL reticle https://alnk.to/4XAA7at this gun will also be a test bed for N-Vision's new clip-on that should be here in a few days.  

I rather like the baby Mark 5 and it is not a bad match to the rifle.  However, I have other long term plans for it since it has enough elevation adjsutment for my long range subsonic hobby.  I waited to test the 2-10x30 Marh 5HD for quite a while since I wanted it with the CMR-MIL reticle

It remains to be seen which scope will end up on the Steyr scout, but Element Theos 2-10x42 is probably the front runner at the moment.  That's the right magnification range for the scout and 42mm objective is a good balance of size and low light performance.  

My Steyr Scout is a couple of pounds above Cooper's weight cutoff in exchange for a built-in bipod, suppressor and a significantly more capable optic.  The barrel is 19" and the suppressor adds another five to it.  It is accurate, robust, and sufficiently light for almost everything I do.  While not a budget build, it is also not unreasonable price-wise.  I think that makes it a true general purpose rifle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Read full Article
Taking another stab at a general purpose rifle
What does "GP Rifle" mean to you?

Every once in a while I go back to an idea of a general purpose rifle and massage it a little.

I suspect that the reason I keep on coming back to it is that many years ago I read a good number of Colonel Cooper's work and always thought that his idea of a scout rifle was very interesting.

In a nutshell, Cooper's scout was a bolt action rifle of less than 40" long, chambered for 308Win or similar, set up with a scout scope (he seemed to like to use stripper clips and needed access to he action) and a Ching sling.  It was supposed to be capable of hunting animals the size of a cow elk out to 400 yards while weighing in at less than 8lbs.  

Fixed power scout scopes are very light, so that weight was achievable.

While I like scout scopes, conventional LPVOs and MPVOs knock the socks off any scout scope in terms of real world performance, so I am willing to accept a little extra weight.

On top of that, I am a firm believer that all rifles should be suppressed, which adds length.

Then, there is the case or various modern attachments that did not really exist when the good Colonel was refining his concept.  While I do not need a thermal clip-on to be on the gun all the time, I do want the capability of adding one in.

Last consideration is whether to go with a bolt-gun or semi-auto.  

I have been pursuing this "General Purpose Rifle" concept for quite a long time.  That was the reason I bought my original Fix boltgun.  I thought of it as a conceptual reincarnation of the scout idea.
My original Fix started life configured with a 16" 308Win Barrel.  It was light, handy and awesome.  This was the exact configuration except with the full length rail: https://eurooptic.sjv.io/k4EvKx

Then, I succumbed to temptation and swapped that 16" Bartlein barrel for a 24" carbon fiber Proof barrel in the same caliber.  It is still my favourite gun of all I have.  I have taken precision classes with it, hunted with it and shot matches with it, but it is no longer a scout rifle.  The barrel and suppressor together add up to more than 30".  It is not very heavy, but it is also not very short.

For a little while, I had another Fix configured with a 16" barrel and chambered for 8.6BLK.  It is an incredibly versatile cartridge and that was a perfect scout rifle.   I shot a cow elk with it at 338 yards to prove the concept.  

Since it worked really well and I can't leave anything well enough alone, I took it apart when I started shooting matches and rebuilt it as 22" 6.5CM precision rifle that you have seen in many pictures since.
The other idea I had was to see what can be done with a truly short barrel, so I built myself another 8.6BLK Fix (I really like these guns, in case you havn't caught onto that yet) around an 8" barrel I already had.  It is surprisingly capable with supersonic ammo and exceedingly handy.  I have not yet decided whether I am willing to shoot a cow elk at 400 yards with it, but I am taking it on an axis doe hunt in a couple of weeks.

When Cooper first defined his scout concept he was not opposed to semi-auto platforms per se, but has some misgivings on whether they can be made sufficiently accurate and reliable.

Technology keeps getting better though and when Q announced their Boombox semi-auto in 8.6BLK, there was a faint echo of "is this my modern scout rifle?" reverberating in far reaches of my brain.

Compared to the Fix with the same length barrel, the Boom Box is about a pound heavier and does everything very well.  Mine has been perfectly reliable.  Primary Arms PLxC 1.5-12x36 is a perfect match for its general purpose nature.  https://alnk.to/b7D6rbe

Together with the suppressor and a flashlight, the Boombox clocks in at just under 11lbs.  If I drop a thermal clip-on (usually Leica https://eurooptic.sjv.io/PO317X ), it is a bit over 12lbs

It is, however, even more expensive than the Fix.  While Boombox price is comparable or lower than that other semi-auto rifles of comparable quality (Seekins SP10M, etc https://eurooptic.sjv.io/n4x64A , it is still a lot of money.  As much as I hate to admit it, it is kinda difficult to say with a straight face that a gun that has a price tag that makes the vast majority of gun enthusiasts' hearts skip a beat is any sort of "General Purpose".  As configured above, it is over $7k (before you add the thermal).

That made me step back for a moment and remember that there are three commercially available scout rifles out there and it so happens I have pretty good familiarity with all three.  The least expensive ones are from Ruger and Savage.  They have had a few iterations over the years, but you can generally pick one up for somewhere in the $700 to $800 range chambered for a few different cartridges, 308Win and 6.5CM among them.  They work well enough, but they are not what I would call polished.  Still, if price is part of the equation, these are nicely robust and very "general purpose" guns.  I have seen quite a few people use them as truck guns.

I have set up a couple of these for my friends over the years and have no complaints of how well they perform for the money.  I think Mossberg also makes their own variant that is even less expensive, but I have no experience with it.

Neither Savage nor Ruger, however, is the original scout.  Cooper made several prototypes and then teamed up with Steyr to make a commercially available scout rifle.  The first Steyr scout rifle became commercially available in the 1990s right around the time I was becoming interested in firearms.  It was far out of reach of a broke college student and then my priorities shifted.

Price-wise, Steyr scout usually clocks in somwhere in the $1600 to $2000 price range.  While not inexpensive, it is closer to the Savage/Ruger/Mossberg than it is to the Fix and the Boombox.  I think I'll go ahead and decree that it then qualifies as a general purpose rifle.

Rather importantly for me, it has a longer top rail than any of the less expensive options offering significant flexibility.  It also has a simple bipod built into the stock and exta magazine storage in the buttstock.  

All of that is nice, but more importantly, Steyr's SBS action and hammer-forged barrel are absolutely world class.

I am planning to take it with me on a hunt in a couple of weeks (I am going for axis deer and bringing three new hunters to hunt hogs on the same property).  I have four rifles to set up and one of them is the Steyr Scout in 6.5CM.  Since I also have a Leupold Mark 5HD 2-10x30 to test, I needed to go sight it in with hunting ammo.  I did not have time to shoot longer shot strings (that thin barrel needs time to cool), but here are three shots at 100yards using Hotline Munitions'124gr VLR4 ammo https://discreetballistics.com/shop/hotline-munitions-6-5-creedmoor-124gr-hunting/

Three shot groups do not tell the full story how accurate the rifle really is, but this is an indication that the mechancial accuracy of this gun is rather promising.  At some point, I will explore it more carefully, but for the time being this is plenty for shooting hogs inside of 200 yards.

As configured, this rifle clocks in at 10.2lbs with the optics, suppressor, two empty magazines and sling:

While I am testing the Mark 5HD 2-10x30 with CMR-MIL reticle https://alnk.to/4XAA7at this gun will also be a test bed for N-Vision's new clip-on that should be here in a few days.  

I rather like the baby Mark 5 and it is not a bad match to the rifle.  However, I have other long term plans for it since it has enough elevation adjsutment for my long range subsonic hobby.  I waited to test the 2-10x30 Marh 5HD for quite a while since I wanted it with the CMR-MIL reticle

It remains to be seen which scope will end up on the Steyr scout, but Element Theos 2-10x42 is probably the front runner at the moment.  That's the right magnification range for the scout and 42mm objective is a good balance of size and low light performance.  

My Steyr Scout is a couple of pounds above Cooper's weight cutoff in exchange for a built-in bipod, suppressor and a significantly more capable optic.  The barrel is 19" and the suppressor adds another five to it.  It is accurate, robust, and sufficiently light for almost everything I do.  While not a budget build, it is also not unreasonable price-wise.  I think that makes it a true general purpose rifle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Read full Article
2026 Del Norte Black Rifle Match

Yesterday was the annual charity match at Del Norte range an hour or so from Albuquerque.  We had fairly ridiculous amounts of water falling from the sky in the last few days and all the unpaves roads leading to the range did not take it well.  Still, it stopped rainign for a day so that we could go shoot.

This is a one gun match where you shoot some combination of paper and steel.  Steel plates are a bit further out.  Paper is all close in.  You are scored based on hits and how fast you run the stage.  I am old, fat and slow, so I am terrible at this, but the match is a lot of fun.

It does not help that I have been so focused on precision last couple of years that I have somewhat neglected the fast stuff.  I should really fix that.  There are some two gun matches at Legacy Ranch (an hour in the other direction from Albuquerque) on a fairly regular basis that I should try for practice.

This year, for shits and giggles, I decided to shoot it with an AK-74 which slowed me down even further, but it was definitely fun.

Last year's match was themed after John Wick movies.  This year, it was a Chuck Norris theme.

While some of the shooters are out to win, since it is a charity match, the atmosphere is very laid back and people do funny things here and there.

For example, one gentleman in my squad dressed as a tactical wizard (I think):

Tactical wizard next to a kilt wearing RO was, I thought, a nice scene.

He had a suppressor enclosed by a Monster can on his AR.  The whole thing was a hoot.

Another gentleman insisted on running stages with the bayonet attached to his AR.  One one of the paper targets that was really close, the ROs let hime bayonet it instead of shooting it.  It was a ncie A-Zone stab.

The carbine I brought for this was an AK74 from Palmetto State Armory https://alnk.to/bEnbIaI with AKML handguard from TDI Arms, DFCO grip, Zhukov stock and Primary Arms PLxC SFP 1-8x24 scope in an RS Regulate mount.  If you are looking for a nucelar bright SFP LPVO with a fiber dot, I will go on the record that at current discounted price, this is the best deal I have seen in a while https://alnk.to/88424vv

As shown, this rifle clocked in at 9.3lbs.  It is definitely not a lightweight, but it was not too heavy either.  I put it through several experiments with different stocks and pic rail dust covers that did not work out well enough for my purposes.  MOst annoyingly, the 1913 stock adaptor kept on getting loose, so I finally slapped Magpul's Zhukov stock on it and went back to the normal AK side mount for the scope.  It is not as slick as I wanted it, but it works.  Another experiment that failed was with getting a suppressor on it.  On this AK-74, the muzzle device is threade donto the side block.  It is not straight enough for a suppressor.  I was getting baffle strikes on a 6mm can.  I coule try a growwly oversized can, I suppose, but I decided to leave it along and put the original muzzle device on.  I still maintain that all guns should be suppressed, but they are not all designed to be suppressed.

In principle, if I wanted to shoot more matches, a longer handguard would go a long way toward helping me drive the gun, but I intentionally decided to run everything as if it has an 11" barrel and a correspondingly short handguard.  I think that muscle memory will translate optimally between different platforms I have.

I will be the first to admit that I may have overscoped this AK a little bit, but on the other hand, given that the scope is pretty light, I do not really see a problem.  At this match, the furthest plates were about 300 yards out, so I appreciated being able to zoom in a little, while on 1x with that bright fiber dot, this scope is fast.

For an AK, this gun has a decent ALG trigger, but having spent the last couple  of years with precision rifles and match triggers, it gave me fits.  It was also very hard to get myself out of the "precision" mode.  I could definitely go faster if my head was not getting in the way.  I think I will do some work on that in the next few weeks.  In the grand scheme of things, 5.56 plining ammo is now cheaper than 5.45x39, but I think I should practice this with different platforms.  I still have some AK specific muscle memory, but I was definitely rusty.

With Wolf 60gr Military Classic ammo launching at 2750fps (with 18fps StDev) the rifle shot groups in the 2MOA to 2.5MOA range standing tripod (I almost never shoot off of a bench any more, so I popped a bag on a tripod and shot off of that) which is plenty good enough for this type of a match.  Intrinsic accuracy of the gun did not get in my way.  However, managing the long spongy trigger pull for longer shots and for offhand shots was a little tricky.  Still, it is my own fault that I neglected practicing with my AKs.  

The match was originally supposed to be eight stages.   I was in quad six, so we shot 6, 7, 8, 1, 2 and 3 before we had to stop.  I have a couple of videos that I am going to look through, stitch together and post.

Just as we were about to shoot stage 4, everyone was told to stop and the range went cold.  Apparently, one of the ROs on a different stage was clearing his handgun (ROs were allowed to have handguns) and shot himself in the hand.  I did not witness it, but that is what I was told.  He was taken to the hospital and seems to be doing OK.  However, our day was done.

It is an unfortunate accident and it sounds like it was self-inflicted.  One of the board memebers from the range went and visited him in the hopsital.  He will need surgery.  Someone also mentioned that this is the second time this gentleman shot himself.  I am not sure what to make of that.  I do not know him personally.  We'll see if there are any further repercussions for the range or for the event moving forward.

There was also a night event (for stages shot with night vision), but I could not participate in that one due to various family obligations.  We are in the middle of a Jewish hoiday of sukkot and my wife already made plans for it.

Watching people bring different guns to this match was very interesting.  Some used ARs on longer stages and a PCC on close range stuff.  It never occurred to me to have multiple guns with me.  One gentleman had what looked like a suppressed PS90 SBR.  A couple of peopl had AKs.  I saw a CZ Scorpion and a B&T SBC9.  I am sure there were a few other unusual choices there, but most people were shooting AR-15s of all sorts.

I have some time to figure out what I will bring next year, but a P320 in a Flux Raider chassis could be an interesting option.

 

 

 

 

Read full Article
Available on mobile and TV devices
google store google store app store app store
google store google store app tv store app tv store amazon store amazon store roku store roku store
Powered by Locals