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Primary Arms PLxC 1-8x24 Nova is IN STOCK

Availability announcement is not quite my forte, but I thought this was worth sharing.

At SHOT Show this year, Primary Arms announced a SFP version of their excellent PLx series 1-8x24 low power variable scope.

I have written and talked about the earlier FFP version of this scope extensively. SFP model is new and is now finally in stock: https://alnk.to/4qLmHb9

LPVO development during the last several years has really gone through one hell technological leap. FOVs got wider. Weight got lower. The biggest disadvantage of LPVOs overall is size and bulk.

Primary Arms' PLxC was designed to shrink down the size and weight as far as practical without compromising optical and mechanical performance.

The first version was FFP and I still have one of them. It is an excellent lightweight LPVO/DMR scope. ACSS reticles in it take a little getting used to, but they work. The whole package offers a lot for the money. Of the three available reticles, I strongly prefer the Meters version. It has the least amount of extraneous stuff I never use and the more prominent horseshoe of the three. https://alnk.to/28RvWFY

With the SFP version of this scope, PA wisely decided to equip with a fiber illuminated reticle. That means the reticle is electroformed rather than glass etched. That means you can not too much extraneous stuff to the reticle. There is only so much you can do with a wire-based design, so it is a simple mil-hash reticle with some basic range estimation available on 8x.

With LPVOs, unless you get a scope with ultra bright diffractive reticle, the basic choice between FFP and SFP is uncomplicated: if you do not venture beyond 300 yards a whole lot (i.e. mostly stay within MPBR), SFP with a bright fiber reticle is likely to offer more for your money.

That is exactly what the choice between SFP and FFP version of PLxC 1-8x24 comes down to: if you are looking for a DMR scope, go FFP. Otherwise, this new SFP fiber illuminated 1-8x is excellent.

Now, you do have to keep in mind that all the hashmarks thicknesses and separations are only mrad accurate on 8x. If you are used to holding with the reticle all the time on different magnifications, FFP is going to be more your speed.

In my time with this SFP 1-8x, I did not find it slowing me down very much. In many ways, it really reminded me of how it was using Vortex' Razor Gen2 1-6x24, except with less weight and a touch more magnification on the high end. I think the Gen2 Razor has slightly larger eyebox on 1x (exit pupil seemed slightly smaller on the PA), but it is not a big difference. Given the Razor Gen2 is likely the single most proven (and abused) LPVO on the market today, this is pretty high praise.

Nova reticle equipped PLxC is optically excellent, weighs a hair under 17 ounces and is 9.2 inches long.

Reticle illumination has ten levels with "off" setting every other click. On 10 is nuclear bright even in bright New Mexico sun. On 1, it is sufficiently dim for even night time use. Turrets track should you want to dial, but I keep them covered. That is not my primary use for this scope, although it works surprisingly well. Click feel is excellent and would be very much appropriate on a precision scope. There is no zero stop though, since these are simple covered turrets. The design of the turrets is PA's proprietary, so I see versions of it on several PA models. This one might be the best execution of it yet.

Very importantly for an LPVO, FOV is very flat and very well corrected for distortion. It is a VERY fast scope on 1x.

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Another Range Day

I managed to sneak in a couple of hours at the range since I needed to be on the opposite side of town anyway.

Here is a list of gear in the video since this is a tech oriented endeavor

The Fix by Q with 24" Proof Research 308 Win barrel. If I was buying one now, I'd probably do 6.5CM https://alnk.to/cb36hCA and https://alnk.to/6xKQTwS
Tangent Theta 7-35x56 with Gen3 XR reticle https://alnk.to/4BGw6zr
Area 419 36mm mount (20MOA slope, 39mm tall) https://alnk.to/2jMFlYq
MDT Ckye triple pull Bipod https://alnk.to/faBYXxh
Q Trash Panda suppressor https://alnk.to/hDqAGXK
AAC Precision 175gr OTM ammo https://alnk.to/gzW2O5r
Pint-sized Gamechanger bag https://alnk.to/aLJ2rb7

458SOCOM AR-15 that I built out of pieces when 458SOCOM just appeared on the scene around a 16" Tromix barrel
Witt SME muzzle device
SAI6 1-6x24 https://alnk.to/9moYAFp
Steiner C35 Gen2 thermal clip-on ($2340 at Battlehawk Armory) https://alnk.to/flwJWpL
Spartan Precision Javelin Lite bipod ...

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Blackhound Emerge 2-12x44

In the spirit of finishing projects before I pile up new ones onto my plate, here is the review of Blackhound Emerge 2-12x44.
It is a somewhat polarizing design with very solid optomechanical fundamentals along with rather weird shortcomings in how the scope is configured.

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August 2nd, 2024 Range Day

I used to occasionally do these range day updates and I wonder if it is a good idea to get back into this habit again.
This should give you some idea of which optics I am looking at and if I do a very mildly edited video recorded with a cellphone it is not a huge time investment.
I finally spent a good amount of time with the Q trigger and it will me default choice going forward. It is nicely done and I just got the second one in to be used with the pistol lower I am putting together. All of my remaining ARs, for the time being, have pretty good triggers (Geissele, Hyperfire and Triggertech), so I do not know if I am in a rush to go swap them out, but if I do a new build, this is going to be it https://alnk.to/hDqmusw

A product I have not talked about much to date is a Telson 1200 LRF. It is a relatively simple LRF without ballistics, but with angle. Unlikely the way these are usually marketed, this one can allegedly range a deer at 1200 yards. Most LRFs claim a very long distance of ...

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Glassaholic Alpha Scope Comparison is posted

The way @Glassaholic writes his reviews in terms of format and word count works much better on my legacy Opticsthoughts website than here.

We talked about it a little and decided to give the following arrangement a shot.

Since I do not post new material on there much at all (other than occasional updates to my recommendations), Glassaholic will take over the duties of posting new content on Opticsthoughts at whatever pace works for him. I do not particularly care about volume, but I care about quality and attention to details. We are all busy and his reviews take a tremendous amount of work.

I might occasionally correct a typo, but beyond that I do not edit anything in his reviews. His opinions are his own.

If there is a discussion to be had on it, it will happen here on Locals. Comments on the Opticsthoughts website will remain off.

Here is his rather excellent write-up:
https://opticsthoughts.com/?p=3176

Precision Scope reticle preference

We now have a bit over 2500 subscribers in this community and I imagine that a good number of them are interested in practical precision shooting to some degree.
What I mean by practical precision shooting is hitting metal plates of varying shapes at varying distances in addition to all the other things involved with precision shooting (paper, etc). People who exclusively shoot paper target usually have different priorities.

In this case, I am interested in reticle preference for practical precision shooting.

Three options are below. What style reticle do you prefer? Tree-type, hashmark-type or grid type?

Please vote!

EDITED TO ADD:
I am bringing the poll back up to the top of the page for a week. If you have not voted yet, please do so.

Hello again. I recently picked up a 3-9 accupoint with the green dot duplex reticle for my father. He has trouble finding thin cross hairs. I'm not impressed with the accupoints illumination at all. It's basically useless in even the slightest shade. I was hoping you would have suggestions for a scope with a German #4 reticle or a similarly bold reticle for around $500. Thanks for your time.

SeeAll Sights
A solution looking for a problem

I was at the range again...

It appears that I start many of my posts with that phrase.  I should probably stop making that disclaimer.  At this point it should be abundantly apparent that I spend a lot of time at the range.

I always have a good reason.  I cleaned the barrel of my muzzleloader yesterday and needed to make a couple of fouling shots before I go hunting tomorrow.  Since I was there anyway, I figured I should do some tripod shooting practice, so I brought one of my ARs with me.  It is an unusual AR since it has a very unique AlSiC wrapped barrel.  AlSiC (Aluminum Silicon Carbide) is an interesting material that can be tuned to perfectly match thermal expansion of whatever it is wrapped around.  It has an incredibly high thermal conductivity coefficient, so it absorbs heat very fast and sheds it equally quickly.  There was a company looking to make barrels where isntead of carbon fiber, a thin steel barrel is wrapped in AlSiC.  The project did not pan out (they vanished on me at some point), but they did make me one barrel.  It has an intereting property in that it seems to exhibit very little POI shift with heat.  It is not the most accurate barrel I have, but it is accurate enough and it is consistent.  It runs a little on the slow side, but it works.  Somehow this rifle ended up being the test bed for the Delta Stryker 3.5-21x44, which happens to be one of my favourite precision gas gun scopes, so I shoot this rifle a lot.  So much so that I think I am going to go swap out the Bootleg Camlock handguard currently on it for the 12" Q Honey Badger handguard I have.  For what it is worth, while I really like the adjustable bolt carriers from Bootleg, their Camlock handguard is a wobbly, bendy, slidy piece of crap.

There are many excellent handguards on the market.  I tend to default to the ones from Q more often than not, but I have several I like from BMC, Aero, MI, etc.  They are all good.  They all work.  Bootleg's Camlock does not stay put.  The engagement of the handguard to the barrel nut is poorly designed.

Moving on...  after hitting the 220 yard plate a couple of times with the iron sighted muzzleloader, I decreed it "good enough to take a shot at a mule deer on an off chance I see one" and switched to the AR-15.

With cheap 55gr ammo, I keep my practice to within 450 yards or so.  The range where I shoot has conveniently placed a bunch of plates at ~430 yards for me to practice on.  I verified zero from the bench (I move stuff around so much, that it is good practice) and transitioned to shooting off of a tripod.

For some reason, I have a very hard time taking a good picture of this reticle handheld.  I'll have to get my fixtures out.  Either way, the above pictuer was taken on 21x and the hangers you see at the bottom left quadrant are at !430 yards.  The illumination is on max setting and is visible but not nuclear on a bright New Mexico day.  Only the main stadia are illuminated, which I like.

Part of routine practice is to shoot offhand using both the primary optic (on low power) and secondary optic.  That's when it dawned on me that I have never really talked much about the SeeAll Sight that I use for redunduncy on a few guns.

https://www.seeallsights.com/

It is a weird looking thing that sorta straddles the gap between iron sights and red dot sights.  It found its home somewhere in that "no mand's land".  It works and it is probably a better option than irons, especially under challenging light conditions.  However, modern red dot sights walk all over it.  Still, I have several of these, which brings up an obvious question: why?

There is really one main reason: they are cheap.  If you check on them through the year and have a little patience, you wil stumble onto some sort of a half off sale.  If that happens late at night after you have been exploring some of the finer qualities of your bourbon collection, you might end up with half a dozen of them.  Ask me how I know.

The sight is very simple.  It is, essentially, a block of greenish edge glow material, a reticle etched on it and a simple lens to project that reticle to your eye.  Some also have tritium for night time use.  They have a couple of picatinny mount versions and a couple of direct mount versions (RMR and RMS).  I have a tleast one of each.  Keeping them properly mounted seems to require a good amount of loctite, but once everything is set up, they stay put and stay zeroed.

The one you are looking at is the RMR base one sitting on Swampfox' rather excellent offset mount.  

Here are the strenghts and weakness of this thing in a nutshell.

 

Strengths:

-small, light, cheap

-focus on the target, not on the aiming point (like on a red dot)

-no batteries

-forgiving of eye astigmatism

 

Weaknesses:

-open design that does not do great in inclement weather

-you bisect the target with the top edge of the sight, so the bottom half of the sight picture is blocked

-eye position is not terribly forgiving (kinda like the irons)

-accuracy with these is tricky

 

If you are setting up an offset optic to use as a primary sight at close range, this is not a good option for you.  

If this is mostly something to get you a little redunduncy, it is not a bad option.  In practical terms, I struggle shooting with this thing beyond 100 yards and I am much happier with it inside of 50.  I can shoot it relatively quickly, but it is distinctly slower than the red dot.  I do not see any speed advantage with this thing over irons unless it is pitch black.  If there is enough light to see the target, there is enough light for the irons and for the SeeAll sight.

Now, if your eyes have a hard time focusing on the front sight, the SeeAll Sight might work a lot better for you. 

Before you all rush out to buy one of these, do keep in mind that you can pick up RS-15 from Primary Arms for $120 right now.  https://alnk.to/9buj4aU  RS-15 is a vastly superior sight to the SeeAll.

However, if you stumble onto a sale where SeeAll sights are going for a $100 or so around Black Friday, it might not be a bad idea to pick one up.  Perhaps, it will agree nicely with your eyes.

Taking a photo of a proper sight picture with this thing turned out to be pretty difficult:

They do have a couple of decent picture with the two available reticle on their website.  

Once I get some of my fixturing set up, I'll take a couple of better pictures and update this post. 

Either way, I know that my take on these sights is a little bipolar.  On one hand, in the grand scheme of things, I am really not a fan.  The way I shoot offhand, I like to drive the gun onto the target and that works very well with red dot sights and not very well with irons or the SeeAll sight.  On the other hand, I have a lot of guns. I like having backup optics on them.  SeeAll Sights do work.  They are wonky, but they work.

 

 

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Muzzleloaders, iron sights and scout scopes

This weekend is my last "tag" hunt of the year.  4th choice deer hunt in a place that is unlikely to have any deer.  

On top of that, it is a muzzleloader only hunt and muzzleloaders in New Mexico are now "iron sights only".


I plan to head out Friday and return no later than Sunday night.  Technically, I have five days for this hunt.  Practically, I rather like being married, so a weekend is all I get.  The unit where I'll be hunting is mostly private land.  After significant amount of e-scouting, I think I converged on an area that looks like it will be my best bet.  Temperatures will get into the mid-to-high 80s this weekend, so snake gaters it is.  I suspect all self-respecting deer will be taking a nap somewhere during the day, so my best bet is to do a lot of glassing around dusk and dawn and look for water.

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Taking a First Look at the Primary Arms GLx 1x

At the moment, I have four 1x prismatics here.  Three have been around for a while and I have been waiting for the last one, GLx 1x to show up so that I can do the comparison.

In other words, GLx is new, but I have a lot of mileage with the other three, so this should not take long.

Primary Arms GLx 1x https://alnk.to/flwOi6h
Primary Arms SLx 1x https://alnk.to/aAOlO50
Gideon Optics Advocate 1x  https://alnk.to/9T9jSP9
Swampfox Raider 1x https://alnk.to/c08pECu

I have been moving these aroudn to see where I like them the most and haf far away from my eye they can comfortably function. 

The SLx 1x has been here for a while and found home on my TNW ASR 10mm PCC.  Normally, there is a 3x PA magnifier behind it (https://alnk.to/3nhhAMU), but I removed it for this comparison.

The Gideon Advocate is on a Scorpion 9mm PCC.

Swampfox Raider has been moving around, but at the moment I am testing it on an odd duck of a rifle: CETME L.  It is a curiosity piece, but I keep on thinking there is an optic for it out there that can jive with CETME's odd ergonomics.  I do not think it was made for human hands.

PA's GLX, for now ended up on PSA's AK-74 https://alnk.to/6bVphTz and is a surprisingly nice match for the rifle.  Next step will be to move it forward (it has amazingly forgiving eye relief) and pop a magnifier behind it.  This is fairly capable rifle, so I want to see if I can shoehorn something like the 6x Micro magnifier https://alnk.to/aeYPQD7 from Vortex behind it.  I may need to raise the stock a bit or add a cheekpiece.  I am knda mixing experiemnts here because I also want to see if FAB Arms PDC will still stay solid after I load it up with an extra optic https://alnk.to/ge6BcqZ

 

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