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Starter Precision.

Last Sunday, I visited on the SlavGuns livestream and the conversation turned to QC issues with riflescopes and on what people should get if they are on a budget.

This all started when it turned out that out of the several Arken scopes SlavGuns received, half had problems.

Despite that, he tried to make an argument that these scopes offer a lot for the money IF you get a good one, especially if you are not shooting all that far away or for newer shooters that might not have the skills to see the flaws come out, etc. He was making a case that all the features you get for comparatively little money make it worth it (if I misinterpreted what he said, I'll post a correction).

I disagree with that profoundly. If the fundamentals of a riflescope are compromised, it does not matter how feature-rich it is. The scope has to stay zeroed. It has to have a reasonable reticle. Turrets have to track.

Twenty years ago, if you were starting out with precision shooting, you got a 308Win boltgun of some sort (Remington was still OK; Savage was pretty decent), a single piece picatinny rail, a pair of TPS rings and a SWFA SS 10x42 scope for $300. The optic did not have a lot of frills, but it held and it tracked. The image quality is good enough and it is still $300 https://swfa.com/swfa-10x42-ss-mil-quad-reticle-30mm-1-mil-clicks-rear-focus/
I still have one of these, for what it is worth, along with the more expensive 10x42HD that sits on an inexpensive 308Win boltgun (a Yugo Mauser action with ER Shaw barrel).

That setup could get you pretty damn far. After some amount of practice, you could easily figure out if it was holding you back and upgrade accordingly. That general concept still holds true, but we have other reliable options.

In the modern market, if a fixed power scope is not your thing, we have several options that are rather tried and true. At the bottom of this post are links to a bunch of reasonably well worked out designs that have developed a reputation for holding up.

They are, mostly, made in China by experienced OEMs and I listed options from $450 to around $1k. It is not an exhaustive list, but from what I have seen, all of these have fairly solid fundamentals and a varying feature set.

If you are a new shooter and this is your first foray into precision shooting, you should be looking for a design that has a reputation for reasonable durability. The minimum feature set is pretty simple: FFP reticle, exposed turrets that track for at least 10mrad or so, side focus, magnification range that tops out somewhere in the 15x to 30x range.

Reticle preferences are in the eye of the beholder, but going for something super complex is usually a bad idea.

You want a reasonable eyebox. Illumination is nice to have, but not critical at this stage. Zero stop is a good idea, but not strictly speaking critical if you are trying to stay on budget.

The SWFA at $300 is still the cheapest option. However, Element Helix FFP 6-24x50 and Vortex Venom 5-25x56 are around $500 along with a few others.

They are supported by good companies. They have been made for different brands (same OEM) in large quantities. They generally hold up.

If one fails, the company will support you. If this is more than you can afford, look for a used one. With solid companies backing the product, it is a pretty safe bet.

Does that mean noone should be buying from brands like Arken and Discovery? not at all. I wish them well and as their improve, I hope they will force everyone else to compete in lower prices. However, if you are new at this, go for the tried and true. You should be spending your time and money on developing skills and experience, not on test driving riflescopes.

If you have been at it for a while, know what you are doing and are trying to scope a dozen or so rifles, Arken is worth a look. At this stage, you can probably diagnose problems. You are likely not looking to spend Tangent Theta money on every one of your rifles. If you are just playing with one of your rifles go nuts on Arken or something along those lines. It is not a ton of money. If it goes down, you are not left high and dry without a rifle. If you get a good one, you'll have a blast with it. If you get a bad one, you have other options.

What would I do if I were starting out again?
It is very hard to argue against Vortex Venom 5-25x56 on a Tikka T3x of some sort chambered for 6.5Creed.
If I wanted a more crossover design, a 3-18x44 Strike Eagle is a good choice.

In all truthfulness, I would probably look for a discounted Burris XTR3i 3.3-18x50 and use it for everything.

If money truly is tight, SWFA fixed power is still king.

Vortex Venom 5-25x56 https://bit.ly/4769sYq
Element Helix 6-24x50 https://bit.ly/46H3ZYD
Vortex Diamondback Tactical 4-16x44 https://bit.ly/3rZ71bB
SwampFox Warhawk 4-20x50 https://bit.ly/3FuFXUL
Vortex Strike Eagle 3-18x44 https://bit.ly/3tOI03l
Athlon Helos BTR Gen2 2-12x42 https://bit.ly/40i1ABe
Primary Arms GLx 3-18x44 https://bit.ly/3kkmtLk
Burris RT-25 5-25x56 https://bit.ly/3Sf56dx
Burris XTR3i 3.3-18x50 https://bit.ly/3XVF8Ld
Meopta Optika6 5-30x56 for $799 https://bit.ly/3Fwlj6t
Meopta Optika5 3-18x50 https://bit.ly/3DFXXe4

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The more time I spent with HUD equipped scopes, the more I think that this is a significant step forward.

If they ever get a WMLRF to connect to this thing, it will be amazing, but even as is, I think it is a meaningful advantage.

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Here is a quick look at the reticle through the scope. As I watch the video, it looks thinner in the picture than it does in real life. I have a suspicion that those relatively dense 0.2mrad hashmarks make the primary stadia stand out more than they would otherwise.

One one hand, I'd prefer for this reticle to be a little bolder or have some high visibility features.

On the other hand, it is pretty usable as is and the scope is quickly becoming one of my favourite MPVO designs currently on the market.

Next step will be to get it back on the gun, mount a piggy-backed RDS and do some shooting from 10 yards to 800 yards.
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Burris Fullfield 3-12x56

For several years now I have been saying that I should look at hunting scopes a bit more carefully. I always get distracted, but not entirely.

Just got my hands onto the re-designed Burris Fullfield 3-12x56.

Just received the 3-12x56 Fullfield with #4 reticle and illuminated dot.

Optically, it looks quite nice. I was not sure if they would be able to pull off a 56mm lens on a scope this short at this price, but it looks like they did. It seems to be very nicely corrected.

Eye relief is pretty consistent. It looks to be a hair over 3 inches on 12x. Once I got it set up on12x, I did not have to make any adjustments to my head position at other magnifications.

On lower power, there is enough eyerelief flexibility to accommodate sitting and standing shooting positions. I do not have to crane my neck when shooting sitting or standing.

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Do you remember what the turrets felt like on your Zeiss LRP S5? Did your elevation and windage turrets feel similar? Mine are quite different.

The elevation turret on mine doesn't feel nearly as good as the windage turret.

The windage turret is very tactile and audible, you can feel each click thunk into place.

My elevation turret is barely audible and the clicks aren't nearly as positive as the windage. It's easy to skip past click detent in the elevation turret, this not a problem on the windage turret.

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Here are some initial thoughts on the Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42.

I finally had a chance to shoot with it both supported and unsupported, which is an important part of figuring out how usable an optic is.

I found what looks to be more accurate specifications in the manual that came with the H6Xi, so the spec table is now updated:

To re-iterate from an earlier post, Eurooptic is selling the H6Xi 2-12x42 for $1350 and at that price, it is easily the best deal going in this category: https://alnk.to/90ALO3C

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Deep into the 40s
42-44mm Riflescopes

I have about 13 months left to be in my 40s, so I figured this is my last opportunity to get cheeky with this project title.

As I mentioned during last week's livestream, I am kicking off a large review encompassing seven different riflescopes that really share only one thing in common: their objectives are in the 42-44mm range.

Here is a comparison table of the specs for the scopes I have on hand.  Note that the Swampfox Warhawk 2-10x44 is not going to be in this comparison very much.  I'll do a separate video on it.  The biggest reason for that is simply that this spec table is becoming too long and comparing so many scopes all at the same time is exponentially more difficult.  I was going to take out either the Warhawk or the Blackhound since neither of them have a zero stop, so I flipped a coin and Blackhound got to stay.  I will go over it a little bit below the table.

I did not set out to have this particular line-up in mind, but I like this riflescope type, so I ended up with all of these on hand.  

Some of these scopes I have lready reviewed quite thoroughly, namely the Blackhound and Tract.

If you look at the specs carefully, you'll see that these range from true ultrashort designs (GPO and March), to "kinda short" designs (Leapers, Delta, Leupold and Blackhound) to a conventionally sized Tract Toric.  Some of these lean toward the MPVO category.  Some are unabashedly aimed at the Crossover market.  Tract stands alone as a relatively conventional hunting scope, except configured very nicely to do everything as necessary.  Another scope that would fit this category very well also that is no longer here is Vortex Strike Eagle 3-18x44.  I might reference it occasionally.

I have a good amount of mileage with all of these, although I have not yet released a final review on every design.  Still, I can offer some initial thoughts in order of ascending price.

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