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Starter ARs and Starter Optics

Various optics for the AR-15 make for a very frequent topic on here, so I thought that a brief aside on a somewhat particular case might be in order.
Here, in the great state of New Mexico, Democrats have a super majority so by and large they do whatever the hell they want and keep on getting re-elected. Once in a blue moon, however, they do pay attention to the voters.
A little earlier this year, they proposed a set of anti-2A laws that would make Gavin Newsom cream into his g-string a little (for the politically correct out there: I have not idea what underwear the esteemed Mr Newsom prefers, but he sure looks like he's got something uncomfortable up his ass at all times), they got so much apparently explicit feedback that most of it did not make it out of the committee. Naturally, there were also a few lawsuits getting ready to go. It did, for a moment, look like AR-15s would get outlawed in out state.

Unbeknownst to me, a friend of mine decided that he should probably pick up an AR-15 while he still can. Had he told me about it, I would have built him one in any configuration he wants, but he did not tell me and I did not know he was looking to get one.

I learned about all of this well after he bought the rifle when he asked which red dot and magnifier he should get.

The primary purpose of the gun is self-defense, general purpose plinking and occasional shooting beyond MPBR. The gentleman who owns the rifle has reasonable experience with shooting. I saw him shoot and his fundamentals are perfectly reasonable. However, he has been out of it for a while and he is planning to pick this hobby back up.

I did some digging around the safe and found what I think is a reasonable solution for his needs, but the project is not yet entirely done.

There is a good chance that he will read this, so what follows in the next few sentences has a real chance of hurting his feelings a bit. I think I can live with that. I am pretty certain he can too.

The specific configuration of an AR-15 that he bought makes no sense. I do not know why S&W makes it that way. I do not know why a self-respecting gunshop would carry it. Maybe the margins are good, but given how evolved modern ARs are and how easy it is to find a better configuration, this is odd to me.

Before I crap all over it any further: it seems adequately accurate. It did not display any reliability issues during the one shooting session we had with the gun. It is a perfectly competent AR, except the configuration makes no sense.

The carbine appears to be a version of S&W's M&P Sport II product line, kinda like the MOE version here: https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/m-p-15-sport-ii-with-magpul-moe-m-lok-
except his came with a Magpul buttstock. Interestingly, the castle nut was loose and a quick look suggested that there is not threadlocking compound on it. Not sure if it came like that from S&W or if the gunshop people were messing with something.

Let's go over the highlights:

16" barrel with threaded muzzle and A2 flashhider -- perfectly reasonable

Melonite finish -- this is a good thing.

5.56 chamber -- I'd prefer an intermediate chamber, but this is not a major deal

1-in-9" barrel twist -- this one is just retarded. Why do people still do this? Most 5.56/223 loads with decent terminal ballistics will not reliably stabilize in this barrel. It will work fine with 55gr plinking ammo. It starts getting marginal with bullets heavier than 60-62 grains. It will work with some 69gr ammo that uses shorter bullets. If you want good terminal ballistics, your best bet is probably Barnes 55gr load ( https://bit.ly/3zZZFVu). 62gr TSX may or may not stabilize. Unless you are building a dedicated varminter, go with either 1-8" or 1-7" twist.

Carbine gas system -- why would you put carbine gas system onto a 16" barrel? Mid-length gas system on a 16" barrel seems pretty standard and gets you a mellower recoil cycle.

Medium weight barrel -- I am not sure what it is under the handguard, but forward of the gas block, it appears to be right around 0.7" diameter. On a fairly basic carbine not intended for distance, all it does is make the gun heavier and the handling poorer. If there ever was a good application for a pencil barrel, this is it.

Fixed tower A2 front sight -- I am not a fan, but that's a personal preference. If you plan to use optics, a fold down BUIS is a better option in my mind.

Non-free floating MOE handguard -- if there is a good reason for it other than profit margins, I'll be damned if I know what it is. There is a TON of simple free floating handguards out there with almost all of them being a better option than this. Eventually, I'll replace this monstrosity with a two piece handguard from MI (https://bit.ly/3UGqyHn) or something along those lines. I've had good luck with MI handguards, so that will likely be the way to go if he chooses to keep the fixed front sight. The gas block looks to be nicely pinned, so it might be a b@#$% to remove. I have seen some that could only be removed with a prayer and a jackhammer.

Magpul folding rear sight -- this is a perfectly reasonable budget option.

A2 grip -- other than it not being designed for human hands, there is really nothing wrong with it.

In the grand scheme of things, all of this is fixable and me bitching about is mostly a reflection of my personal preferences. It is a perfectly reasonable first AR for someone getting back to shooting. Over time, he will figure out what works for him and what does not.

So far, I set him up with optics (which we will cover next). In the next few days, I will take it apart to take a closer look at everything. After that, I will cinch everything down with loctite where appropriate and swap out the grip for something better.

The gentleman who owns the rifle has had some experience with red dot sights and, since he already has irons on there, that seemed like a good way to go. However, given that I was pretty certain he will want to stretch the distance at some point, I though that he could use a little magnification. Well, I have plenty of red dots and magnifiers here. Personally, I really like ultra compact magnifiers, but if you want to retain a folding BUIS rear, you will have eye relief issues with pretty much all of them. I do have a few full size magnifiers around. They are still pretty small, but bigger than the compacts. That means the eyepiece extends further back and we have a better chance of getting one of these to work.

In the specific case of this carbine, we set it up with Primary Arms MD-25 red dot sight https://bit.ly/3IBbPcq and PA's SLx FS 3x magnifier https://bit.ly/3UBkNuR

I do not know what exact sighting system he will settle on eventually, so it did not make sense to invest into a higher end optic. Besides, MD-25 has been nicely robust in my experience (frankly, for around $140 at the moment, it is a steal). Slightly larger optic diameter does work better with magnifiers which is important in this situation. ACSS CQB reticle, combined with a magnifier, will let him shoot at plates out to 500/600 yards depending on how we do the final sight in. The 3x SLx magnifier is quite respectable optically, so it is very doable.

If you look at the picture carefully, the magnifier is still not quite as far back as it needs to be for comfort. I think I can push it back a little further and, next time we meet, I will have him go through a range of shooting positions to finetune this a little bit.

Most magnifiers do not have all the flexible of eye relief which can cause problems as you transition between shooting positions. Collapsible stock can help with that, of course. It is not uncommon to set the stock up a click or two longer for shooting prone than standing.

We'll see how it pans out. Ultimately, the magnifier needs to be just right when shooting prone. Shooting quickly off hand would normally imply that the magnifier is flipped to the side.

If we can't get this one properly set up, I think I have a few more magnifiers here somewhere that are a little bit longer.

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Del Norte Black Rifle Match Drone Footage:" Stage 1

Here is what Stage 1 looked like. This was the only stage where I timed out, largely because I fumbled on a mag reload and struggled with a trigger a bit on longer distance offhand shooting. That was a shame because otherwise this was a stage where I could do decently.

The gentleman in the video is Parker Tomasi. He is the owner of a local shooting facility and event center called Legacy Ranch. I think he had the high score on this stage.
https://lrshooting.com/
Parker is a retired Marine Corp officer (Major, I think), a very good shooter and a genuinely pleasant human being. He was in my squad at this match last year.

Drone footage is courtesy of Montana Blaze
https://www.instagram.com/montana.blaze/

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Del Norte Black Rifle Match Drone footage

There was a gentleman with FPV drone getting some footage of every stage.
To my surprise, he just sent the videos out to everyone who shot the match.
Here is me lumbering my way through Stage 2. I'll look through other videos as time allows and upload a few more from other stages with more competent shooters.

Funny thing is that while I knew the drone guy was around, I have no recollection of him flying the drone while I was shooting. Even this minimal amount of stress induces some measure of tunnel vision.

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2026 Del Norte Black Rifle Match Video

Here is the video of the stages we shot. There are two clips for Stage 8. These were a bit tricky to record without a drone, the way the 180 deg zones worked out.

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@DarkLordOfOptics I'm building a 16in 5.56 SPR. I need your help choosing an FFP scope for 5.56 at longer ranges (400m and beyond). I'm leaning towards the PLxC 1.5-12x36mm FFP RDB (MIL reticle) but I'm also considering these other options:

PLxC 1-8x24 FFP RDB (MIL reticle)
PLxC 2.5-20x48
Delta Stryker HD 1-10x28
Nightforce NX6 2-12x42mm
Razor HD Gen III 1-10x24 FFP MRAD

Which option under ~$2200 do you recommend for my use case? My main priority is quality and durability.

I would really appreciate your help. Thanks!

Let's Talk a Little Bit About Leupold

As I write this, I find myself in a Starbuck in Portland waiting for my colleague to arrive. We are going to spend a couple of days in Oregon helping a customer get going. Since we had to fly in from different places, our arrivals are staggered.

Since I am in Portland and since I just started my review of Leupold Mark 5HD 2-10x30, I figured I should offer something of an overview of Leupold product line as it exists today.

On the precision side of things, we have the Mark 5HD and Mark 4HD.

Mark 5 HD line has been around for a bit and there are consistent rumors that it is going to go to a Gen 2 soon. Despite being quite friendly with several people at Leupold, I do not have any insight into that.

My basic take on the Mark 5HD line is pretty straightforward. For the most part, they offer good performance for the money, especially when you need something relatively light weight. They do have a mystifyingly high surcharge for illumination.

2-10x30 is quite good (although this one is not very light), especially with ...

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What are your thoughts on Warne mounts? Warne probably makes the PA GLx mounts. Would it be a good idea to upgrade to Reptilia? Thanks!

Doing my part
Introducing new people to hunting

In a couple of weeks, I am going to head out to Texas to take three new hunters on a hog hunt.
Two of them (flying in from California) have never hunted before.  One (coming from Alabama) has not gone hunting for three decades or so.
I remember when I lived in the middle of LA, going hunting was a daunting endeavor.  I did not know anyone around me who had experience with that and I simply wasn't sure how to go about it.
Thankfully, I had friends out of state who were happy to help, but I really started getting into hunting after I moved to New Mexico.
Now that I've been at it for a few years, I make it a point to help those of my friends who are interested in this hobby and who happen to live behind enemy lines.
The place where  we are going was recommended by a friend of mine.  I have never been there before, but it is supposed to be fairly civilized.  These guys are not looking for a backcountry hunt.  They get to shoot unlimited hogs and to enjoy some nice bourbon and cigars back at the lodge.
Once they are situated, I am going to try to get an axis deer doe.  
It is not that I am not interested in shooting hogs, but from a culinary standpoint I am more interested in axis deer.  Besides, I took my son and my nephew hog hunting back in June and I still have plenty of meat from that.
At the moment, I am in the process of getting four rifles set up for everyone to use.  Naturally, I have a few thermals coming for us to play with and create some content on.

Here is the line-up.

I am going to use my 8.6BLK Fix pistol, with an 8" barrel.  Under normal circumstances, this gun mostly shoots subsonics, but the owner of the ranch suggested I need something peppier, so I set it up for Barnes new 200gr VOR-TX ammo:

The ammo is new to the market.  Out of that 8" barrel, it moves at 1820fps with 9fps SD.  This 200gr bullet expands at velocities as low as 1400fps, so this is a 200-250yards gun with suerpesonic ammo.

SInce I have to clealry identify that I am looking at an axis doe, not some other deer on the property, I needed a poor light capable riflescope on there, so I set up Element Theos on the FIx, but it is a backup scope this time around.  I expect to get a couple of DNT optics to get here in time and the plan is to mount their TNC635R Thermnight for this.  Thermnight has both a thermal optic and digital night vision device.  I am very curious how well it will work during the pre-dawn/post-sunset hours when axis deer are active.

Next on the list is the Boombox I have, also in 8.6BLK with Q's Short Chop suppressor.  That rifle is currently set up for Phantom Defense's ammo that launches 210gr Barnes bullet at 2270fps.

The main optic on the Boombox is Primary Arms PLxC 1.5-12x36.  For the hunt I plan to N-Vision's new thermal clip-on.  I'll post a picture when it gets here.

Next on the list is my trusty 458SOCOM AR-15 with YHM R45 suppressor that wears SAI 1-6x24 scope and shoots 300gr bullets at around 1850fps.  For this one, I have Guide's new utlralight Orion 635CS thermal clip-on on the way.  Again, once it is all here a picture is forthcoming.

Last on the list is the Stery Scout in 6.5CM currently sporting Leupold's Mark 5HD 2-10x30.  My original plan was to pop Leica's Calonx 2 in front of it, but I also have another DNT thermal coming, so I am leaning toward putting the DNT on the Steyr and keeping the Leica as a spare in case something breaks down.  One of the many ncie things about the Leica is that it is pre-collimated, i.e. there is no sighting in requried https://alnk.to/3ygwDEh  That way, if someone's thermal goes down, I can just swap it for the Leica in the field.

Now, I just need to decide who gets which gun.

 

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Taking another stab at a general purpose rifle
What does "GP Rifle" mean to you?

Every once in a while I go back to an idea of a general purpose rifle and massage it a little.

I suspect that the reason I keep on coming back to it is that many years ago I read a good number of Colonel Cooper's work and always thought that his idea of a scout rifle was very interesting.

In a nutshell, Cooper's scout was a bolt action rifle of less than 40" long, chambered for 308Win or similar, set up with a scout scope (he seemed to like to use stripper clips and needed access to he action) and a Ching sling.  It was supposed to be capable of hunting animals the size of a cow elk out to 400 yards while weighing in at less than 8lbs.  

Fixed power scout scopes are very light, so that weight was achievable.

While I like scout scopes, conventional LPVOs and MPVOs knock the socks off any scout scope in terms of real world performance, so I am willing to accept a little extra weight.

On top of that, I am a firm believer that all rifles should be suppressed, which adds length.

Then, there is the case or various modern attachments that did not really exist when the good Colonel was refining his concept.  While I do not need a thermal clip-on to be on the gun all the time, I do want the capability of adding one in.

Last consideration is whether to go with a bolt-gun or semi-auto.  

I have been pursuing this "General Purpose Rifle" concept for quite a long time.  That was the reason I bought my original Fix boltgun.  I thought of it as a conceptual reincarnation of the scout idea.
My original Fix started life configured with a 16" 308Win Barrel.  It was light, handy and awesome.  This was the exact configuration except with the full length rail: https://eurooptic.sjv.io/k4EvKx

Then, I succumbed to temptation and swapped that 16" Bartlein barrel for a 24" carbon fiber Proof barrel in the same caliber.  It is still my favourite gun of all I have.  I have taken precision classes with it, hunted with it and shot matches with it, but it is no longer a scout rifle.  The barrel and suppressor together add up to more than 30".  It is not very heavy, but it is also not very short.

For a little while, I had another Fix configured with a 16" barrel and chambered for 8.6BLK.  It is an incredibly versatile cartridge and that was a perfect scout rifle.   I shot a cow elk with it at 338 yards to prove the concept.  

Since it worked really well and I can't leave anything well enough alone, I took it apart when I started shooting matches and rebuilt it as 22" 6.5CM precision rifle that you have seen in many pictures since.
The other idea I had was to see what can be done with a truly short barrel, so I built myself another 8.6BLK Fix (I really like these guns, in case you havn't caught onto that yet) around an 8" barrel I already had.  It is surprisingly capable with supersonic ammo and exceedingly handy.  I have not yet decided whether I am willing to shoot a cow elk at 400 yards with it, but I am taking it on an axis doe hunt in a couple of weeks.

When Cooper first defined his scout concept he was not opposed to semi-auto platforms per se, but had some misgivings on whether they can be made sufficiently accurate and reliable.

Technology keeps getting better though and when Q announced their Boombox semi-auto in 8.6BLK, there was a faint echo of "is this my modern scout rifle?" reverberating in far reaches of my brain.

Compared to the Fix with the same length barrel, the Boom Box is about a pound heavier and does everything very well.  Mine has been perfectly reliable.  Primary Arms PLxC 1.5-12x36 is a perfect match for its general purpose nature.  https://alnk.to/b7D6rbe

Together with the suppressor and a flashlight, the Boombox clocks in at just under 11lbs.  If I drop a thermal clip-on onto it (usually Leica https://eurooptic.sjv.io/PO317X ), it is a bit over 12lbs

It is, however, even more expensive than the Fix.  While Boombox price is comparable or lower than that of other semi-auto rifles of comparable quality (Seekins SP10M, etc https://eurooptic.sjv.io/n4x64A , it is still a lot of money.  As much as I hate to admit it, it is kinda difficult to say with a straight face that a gun carrying a price tag that makes the vast majority of gun enthusiasts' hearts skip a beat is any sort of "General Purpose".  As configured above, it is over $7k (before you add the thermal).

That made me step back for a moment and remember that there are three commercially available scout rifles out there that I happen have pretty good familiarity with.  The least expensive ones that I messed with are from Ruger and Savage.  They have had a few iterations over the years, but you can generally pick one up for somewhere in the $700 to $800 range chambered for a few different cartridges, 308Win and 6.5CM among them.  They work well enough, but they are not what I would call polished.  Still, if price is part of the equation, these are nicely robust and very "general purpose" guns.  I have seen quite a few people use them as truck guns.

I have set up a couple of these for my friends over the years and have no complaints of how well they perform for the money.  I think Mossberg also makes their own variant that is even less expensive, but I have no experience with it.

Neither Savage nor Ruger, however, is the original scout.  Cooper made several prototypes and then teamed up with Steyr to make a commercially available scout rifle.  The first Steyr scout rifle went on sale in the 1990s right around the time I was becoming interested in firearms.  It was far out of reach of a broke college student and then my priorities shifted.  Some longing still remained.

Price-wise, Steyr scout usually clocks in somwhere in the $1600 to $2000 price range.  While not inexpensive, it is closer to the Savage/Ruger/Mossberg than it is to the Fix and the Boombox.  I think I'll go ahead and decree that it then qualifies as a general purpose rifle.

Rather importantly for me, it has a longer top rail than any of the less expensive options offering significant flexibility.  It also has a simple bipod built into the stock and exta magazine storage in the buttstock.  

All of that is nice, but more importantly, Steyr's SBS action and hammer-forged barrel are absolutely world class.

I am planning to take it with me on a hunt in a couple of weeks (I am going for axis deer and bringing three new hunters to hunt hogs on the same property).  I have four rifles to set up and one of them is the Steyr Scout in 6.5CM.  Since I also have a Leupold Mark 5HD 2-10x30 to test, I needed to go sight it in with hunting ammo.  I did not have time to shoot longer shot strings (that thin barrel needs time to cool), but here are three shots at 100yards using Hotline Munitions' 124gr VLR4 ammo https://discreetballistics.com/shop/hotline-munitions-6-5-creedmoor-124gr-hunting/

Three shot groups do not tell the full story of how accurate the rifle really is, but this is an indication that the mechancial accuracy of this gun is rather promising.  At some point, I will explore it more carefully, but for the time being this is plenty for shooting hogs inside of 200 yards.

As configured, this rifle clocks in at 10.2lbs with the optics, suppressor, two empty magazines and an RS1 sling (it is kinda like Ching sling, but better):

While I am testing the Mark 5HD 2-10x30 with CMR-MIL reticle https://alnk.to/4XAA7at this gun will also be a test bed for N-Vision's new clip-on that should be here in a few days.  

I rather like the baby Mark 5 and it is not a bad match to the rifle.  However, I have other long term plans for it since it has enough elevation adjustment for my long range subsonic hobby.  I waited to test the 2-10x30 Mark 5HD for quite a while since I wanted it with the CMR-MIL reticle

It remains to be seen which scope will end up on the Steyr scout, but Element Theos 2-10x42 is probably the front runner at the moment.  That's the right magnification range for the scout and 42mm objective is a good balance of size and low light performance.  

My Steyr Scout is a couple of pounds above Cooper's weight cutoff in exchange for a built-in bipod, suppressor and a significantly more capable optic.  The barrel is 19" and the suppressor adds another five to it.  It is accurate, robust, and sufficiently light for almost everything I do.  While not a budget build, it is also not unreasonable price-wise.  I think that makes it a true general purpose rifle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2026 Del Norte Black Rifle Match

Yesterday was the annual charity match at Del Norte range an hour or so from Albuquerque.  We had fairly ridiculous amounts of water falling from the sky in the last few days and all the unpaves roads leading to the range did not take it well.  Still, it stopped rainign for a day so that we could go shoot.

This is a one gun match where you shoot some combination of paper and steel.  Steel plates are a bit further out.  Paper is all close in.  You are scored based on hits and how fast you run the stage.  I am old, fat and slow, so I am terrible at this, but the match is a lot of fun.

It does not help that I have been so focused on precision last couple of years that I have somewhat neglected the fast stuff.  I should really fix that.  There are some two gun matches at Legacy Ranch (an hour in the other direction from Albuquerque) on a fairly regular basis that I should try for practice.

This year, for shits and giggles, I decided to shoot it with an AK-74 which slowed me down even further, but it was definitely fun.

Last year's match was themed after John Wick movies.  This year, it was a Chuck Norris theme.

While some of the shooters are out to win, since it is a charity match, the atmosphere is very laid back and people do funny things here and there.

For example, one gentleman in my squad dressed as a tactical wizard (I think):

Tactical wizard next to a kilt wearing RO was, I thought, a nice scene.

He had a suppressor enclosed by a Monster can on his AR.  The whole thing was a hoot.

Another gentleman insisted on running stages with the bayonet attached to his AR.  One one of the paper targets that was really close, the ROs let hime bayonet it instead of shooting it.  It was a ncie A-Zone stab.

The carbine I brought for this was an AK74 from Palmetto State Armory https://alnk.to/bEnbIaI with AKML handguard from TDI Arms, DFCO grip, Zhukov stock and Primary Arms PLxC SFP 1-8x24 scope in an RS Regulate mount.  If you are looking for a nucelar bright SFP LPVO with a fiber dot, I will go on the record that at current discounted price, this is the best deal I have seen in a while https://alnk.to/88424vv

As shown, this rifle clocked in at 9.3lbs.  It is definitely not a lightweight, but it was not too heavy either.  I put it through several experiments with different stocks and pic rail dust covers that did not work out well enough for my purposes.  MOst annoyingly, the 1913 stock adaptor kept on getting loose, so I finally slapped Magpul's Zhukov stock on it and went back to the normal AK side mount for the scope.  It is not as slick as I wanted it, but it works.  Another experiment that failed was with getting a suppressor on it.  On this AK-74, the muzzle device is threade donto the side block.  It is not straight enough for a suppressor.  I was getting baffle strikes on a 6mm can.  I coule try a growwly oversized can, I suppose, but I decided to leave it along and put the original muzzle device on.  I still maintain that all guns should be suppressed, but they are not all designed to be suppressed.

In principle, if I wanted to shoot more matches, a longer handguard would go a long way toward helping me drive the gun, but I intentionally decided to run everything as if it has an 11" barrel and a correspondingly short handguard.  I think that muscle memory will translate optimally between different platforms I have.

I will be the first to admit that I may have overscoped this AK a little bit, but on the other hand, given that the scope is pretty light, I do not really see a problem.  At this match, the furthest plates were about 300 yards out, so I appreciated being able to zoom in a little, while on 1x with that bright fiber dot, this scope is fast.

For an AK, this gun has a decent ALG trigger, but having spent the last couple  of years with precision rifles and match triggers, it gave me fits.  It was also very hard to get myself out of the "precision" mode.  I could definitely go faster if my head was not getting in the way.  I think I will do some work on that in the next few weeks.  In the grand scheme of things, 5.56 plining ammo is now cheaper than 5.45x39, but I think I should practice this with different platforms.  I still have some AK specific muscle memory, but I was definitely rusty.

With Wolf 60gr Military Classic ammo launching at 2750fps (with 18fps StDev) the rifle shot groups in the 2MOA to 2.5MOA range standing tripod (I almost never shoot off of a bench any more, so I popped a bag on a tripod and shot off of that) which is plenty good enough for this type of a match.  Intrinsic accuracy of the gun did not get in my way.  However, managing the long spongy trigger pull for longer shots and for offhand shots was a little tricky.  Still, it is my own fault that I neglected practicing with my AKs.  

The match was originally supposed to be eight stages.   I was in quad six, so we shot 6, 7, 8, 1, 2 and 3 before we had to stop.  I have a couple of videos that I am going to look through, stitch together and post.

Just as we were about to shoot stage 4, everyone was told to stop and the range went cold.  Apparently, one of the ROs on a different stage was clearing his handgun (ROs were allowed to have handguns) and shot himself in the hand.  I did not witness it, but that is what I was told.  He was taken to the hospital and seems to be doing OK.  However, our day was done.

It is an unfortunate accident and it sounds like it was self-inflicted.  One of the board memebers from the range went and visited him in the hopsital.  He will need surgery.  Someone also mentioned that this is the second time this gentleman shot himself.  I am not sure what to make of that.  I do not know him personally.  We'll see if there are any further repercussions for the range or for the event moving forward.

There was also a night event (for stages shot with night vision), but I could not participate in that one due to various family obligations.  We are in the middle of a Jewish hoiday of sukkot and my wife already made plans for it.

Watching people bring different guns to this match was very interesting.  Some used ARs on longer stages and a PCC on close range stuff.  It never occurred to me to have multiple guns with me.  One gentleman had what looked like a suppressed PS90 SBR.  A couple of peopl had AKs.  I saw a CZ Scorpion and a B&T SBC9.  I am sure there were a few other unusual choices there, but most people were shooting AR-15s of all sorts.

I have some time to figure out what I will bring next year, but a P320 in a Flux Raider chassis could be an interesting option.

 

 

 

 

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