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Can you make a good 1- 10x scope?
critique of Brass Facts video
February 15, 2023
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There is a nice video out there that claims it is impossible. I was blissfully unaware of it, but a friend of mine sent me the link, presumable because the video references me, however briefly.

I went and watched it. It really like the production quality and he really gets a lot of the details correctly (though not all). There is, however, one absolutely glaring error and a few minor ones. Now, that alone would not make me want to make what is essentially going to be a rebuttal video.  I decided to sit down and write down my thoughts before I make the video.  Than I decided to share these thoughts with you in a written form before I get to the video itself.

I do not like doing these critique jobs.  However, he is doing a pretty shameless straw man argument, so I figured it is worth my time.  I do not think his intent is malicious, but contrarian arguments get a lot of clicks.  It is very fashionable these days to find a product that shows up in serches a lto and crap all over it to make yourself stand out.  Still, I am going treat this as an error, rather than an attempt to obfuscate. The single biggest error and the one on which his whole argument hinges on, is that of expectations. He never states it out right, so noone really catches onto what is essentially a slight of hand.

There is a lot of footage of him walking up and down rocky hills with lots of nice gear and interspersed with diagrams only marginally related to the subject discussed.  It all looks authoritative and sounds really awesome. If you follow the logic of his argument it all really makes a lot of sense. If you accept his underlying assumption that is. The assumption that is never quite stated outrightm soit does not get challenged.

If you assume that a 1-10x LPVO is supposed to supersede BOTH lower mag ratio LPVOs AND Larger objective 2-10×40 MPVOs scopes, it all makes total sense.  However, that is not what they are for. They were never intended to peplace larger objective designs specifically for the reasons stated in the video: exit pupil gets small on high magnification when you have a small objective.

1-10x scopes are intended to extend the capability of lower erector ratio LPVOs in a pinch, not to supplant larger scopes.

A 1- 10x scope is indeed harder to build than a 1-4x, 1-6x or a 1- 8x. That's why good ones are expensive.  Somewhere in there he insinuated that he'd like a SFP 1-10x scope and they do exist, but there is a good reason to make these with FFP reticles when you consider the general purpose application.  Honestly, a part of his argument almost seems to be "they do not make these in the configuraiton that I'd like, which means it is not possible to make a good one".  That's a flawed argument at best.

Even with 1-8x designs, the trend is clearly toward FFP scopes and, again, for a good reason.  One of the many reasons to go with a FFP LPVO is that the reticle works on all magnifications.  MOst importantly, the reticle is designed to do different things on different magnifications.  That is intentional.  While a significant number of people do only use them on the lowest and highest magnifications, the biggest reason to have an LPVO on your AR is to be prepared for situations you did not expect.  That's where the flexibility comes in.  Another benefit of FFP designs is that in a modern LPVO you WANT a sophisticated free reticle on 5x and above to use for trajectory and wind compensation.  However, on Ix you want it to look like a simple reticle: bright dot, #4, etc. You do not want to see the entire tree.  That is not possible with a SFP only design. With FFP, it is easy to set things up so that all the busy stuff disappears out of view on low magnifications.

Now the criticism that most reticles in current FFP LPVOs are not sufficiently visible on lx without illumination and reticle illumination does not have a particularly long battery life is generally accurate, but not entirely valid.  First of all, it is absolutely possible to design a reticle that works fine in FFP LPVOs on 1x.  However, several companies deliberately do not do that. They choose to have the reticle disappear on 1x, so that all you get is a bright dot. A good example't that is what is arguably the most sophisticated tactical LPVO on the market at the moment: S&B Dual CC 1-8×24 That happens to be a dual focal plane design, but the idea is the same.  Steiner's new dual focal plane version of the M8Xi is set up in a similar way as well. Razor Geis 1-10×24 is FFP only and while the reticle has some visibility on 1x, it is not a ton without illumination.  The reticle can be easily modified to rectify that should they choose to.  March, with their dual focal plane 1-10×24, did exactly that. FFP reticle becomes very unobtrusive on low power, while the SFP reticle remains of the same apparent size. Essentially, it is a tree reticle on higher magnifications and a simple # 4 reticle on lower magnifications. The ACSS reticle in PA's 1-8×24 PLxC is FFP only, but it is set up to work just fine on 1x non-illuminated.  It would work in exactly the same way in 1-10x as it does in a 1-8x.

Then there is an argument that in 1-10x scopes the performance on 1x is not good, with Razor Gen 3 1-10x shown as an example.  He even has the camera show you a picture through the scope.

This is the part where I can't tell if it is incompetence on malfeasance.

1-10x scope is clearly not focused for the camera, while the other scopes are.  If I were trying to sabotage how a particular scope looks, this is how I would do it.  Now, I have seen a couple of other Youtubers make the same claim about the Razor and the pictures show the same thing: they either did not know how to set the scope up or intentionally set it up to look bad. Vortex bashing seems to be popular these days and is good for clicks.  Perhaps it is as simple as that.

Ultimately, the moral of this story is pretty simple:  FFP 1- 10x scopes are not simple to build, but it is clearly not impossible.  When discussing a scope, it is a good practice to understand what it was intended for.  Otherwise you end up with a straw man argument.

Oh, and when someone claims to have taken "engineering physics six hours a day, that usually though not always means that a sociology major is trying to impress an english major.  "Engineering physics" is a class for social studies people who need to fulfill a science requirement to graduate.

For background, I own two Razor Gen3 1-10x24 scopes, so I have spent a lot of time with them and have seen many more of these at Vortex' facility.  I have spent a LOT of time with two March 1-10x24 dual focal plance scopes.  I own two Primary Arms PLxC 1-8x24 scopes and March Shorty 1-8x24.  SAI 1-6x24 is here.  Tract 1-8x24, Steiner P4Xi 1-4x24 and PA Slx 1-6x24 are as well.  I bet there are several more I can not recall right offhand and that does not include a good number of various prototypes.  I have lost count of how many LPVOs of all possible flavors have gone through my hands over the years.  I was there essentially for the entirety of their evolution as general purpose AR scopes.  I have provided feedback and consulted on a good number of them.  Quite a few of the companies I provided feedback to did not necessarily follow my recommendations.  That does not mean they made a shitty scope.  That just means they prioritized something differently from the way I would, or had a somewhat different dsign goal or simply chose to go witht he feedback of a different SME.  There are a few of us around and we do not always agree with each other.  Design goals matter and they might not coincide perfectly with what you are looking.

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Del Norte Black Rifle Match Drone Footage:" Stage 1

Here is what Stage 1 looked like. This was the only stage where I timed out, largely because I fumbled on a mag reload and struggled with a trigger a bit on longer distance offhand shooting. That was a shame because otherwise this was a stage where I could do decently.

The gentleman in the video is Parker Tomasi. He is the owner of a local shooting facility and event center called Legacy Ranch. I think he had the high score on this stage.
https://lrshooting.com/
Parker is a retired Marine Corp officer (Major, I think), a very good shooter and a genuinely pleasant human being. He was in my squad at this match last year.

Drone footage is courtesy of Montana Blaze
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Del Norte Black Rifle Match Drone footage

There was a gentleman with FPV drone getting some footage of every stage.
To my surprise, he just sent the videos out to everyone who shot the match.
Here is me lumbering my way through Stage 2. I'll look through other videos as time allows and upload a few more from other stages with more competent shooters.

Funny thing is that while I knew the drone guy was around, I have no recollection of him flying the drone while I was shooting. Even this minimal amount of stress induces some measure of tunnel vision.

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2026 Del Norte Black Rifle Match Video

Here is the video of the stages we shot. There are two clips for Stage 8. These were a bit tricky to record without a drone, the way the 180 deg zones worked out.

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Primary Arms PLxC Blem scopes

Thanks to @afret and his sharp eyes, here are a couple of deals on PLxC Blem scopes. These are cosmetic blemishes. The scopes are perfectly normal in terms of optomechanical performance and are full warranted.
These are very heavily discounted and at these prices, they represent easily the best bang for the buck on the market today.

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At this stage, I have a SIGNIFICANT amount of mileage with all four of these scopes.

I think they are extremely competitive at their regular price.

Blemished scopes that are ~30% off offer the best deal currently available.

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Practicing what I preach. Sorta.

For quite some time now, whenever someone came up to me with a question of "what bolt action rifle should I get?", about half the time it ended up being some sort of a Tikka variant.

I have seen a lot of Tikkas.

They have been consistently accurate.

There is a pretty good ecosystem of aftermarket parts for the Tikka, but unless you have something very specialized in mind you do not need that ecosystem.

In terms of price, one of the Tikka T3x variants in the $800 to $1200 range is usually the most performance you are going to get for the money in a general purpose hunting rifle with the fewest compromises, for example, while heavier barrel variants do very well in competition use.

On the rimfire side, Tikka T1x is more consistently accurate than any rifle in that price range has any right to be.

My rimfire trainer is, indeed, a T1x, except in an XLR chassis because I wanted ergonomics and weight that simulate, to some degree my centerfire match rifle.

However, with centerfire rifles, I keep on talking about T3x, yet the bulk...

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Introducing new people to hunting

In a couple of weeks, I am going to head out to Texas to take three new hunters on a hog hunt.
Two of them (flying in from California) have never hunted before.  One (coming from Alabama) has not gone hunting for three decades or so.
I remember when I lived in the middle of LA, going hunting was a daunting endeavor.  I did not know anyone around me who had experience with that and I simply wasn't sure how to go about it.
Thankfully, I had friends out of state who were happy to help, but I really started getting into hunting after I moved to New Mexico.
Now that I've been at it for a few years, I make it a point to help those of my friends who are interested in this hobby and who happen to live behind enemy lines.
The place where  we are going was recommended by a friend of mine.  I have never been there before, but it is supposed to be fairly civilized.  These guys are not looking for a backcountry hunt.  They get to shoot unlimited hogs and to enjoy some nice bourbon and cigars back at the lodge.
Once they are situated, I am going to try to get an axis deer doe.  
It is not that I am not interested in shooting hogs, but from a culinary standpoint I am more interested in axis deer.  Besides, I took my son and my nephew hog hunting back in June and I still have plenty of meat from that.
At the moment, I am in the process of getting four rifles set up for everyone to use.  Naturally, I have a few thermals coming for us to play with and create some content on.

Here is the line-up.

I am going to use my 8.6BLK Fix pistol, with an 8" barrel.  Under normal circumstances, this gun mostly shoots subsonics, but the owner of the ranch suggested I need something peppier, so I set it up for Barnes new 200gr VOR-TX ammo:

The ammo is new to the market.  Out of that 8" barrel, it moves at 1820fps with 9fps SD.  This 200gr bullet expands at velocities as low as 1400fps, so this is a 200-250yards gun with suerpesonic ammo.

SInce I have to clealry identify that I am looking at an axis doe, not some other deer on the property, I needed a poor light capable riflescope on there, so I set up Element Theos on the FIx, but it is a backup scope this time around.  I expect to get a couple of DNT optics to get here in time and the plan is to mount their TNC635R Thermnight for this.  Thermnight has both a thermal optic and digital night vision device.  I am very curious how well it will work during the pre-dawn/post-sunset hours when axis deer are active.

Next on the list is the Boombox I have, also in 8.6BLK with Q's Short Chop suppressor.  That rifle is currently set up for Phantom Defense's ammo that launches 210gr Barnes bullet at 2270fps.

The main optic on the Boombox is Primary Arms PLxC 1.5-12x36.  For the hunt I plan to N-Vision's new thermal clip-on.  I'll post a picture when it gets here.

Next on the list is my trusty 458SOCOM AR-15 with YHM R45 suppressor that wears SAI 1-6x24 scope and shoots 300gr bullets at around 1850fps.  For this one, I have Guide's new utlralight Orion 635CS thermal clip-on on the way.  Again, once it is all here a picture is forthcoming.

Last on the list is the Stery Scout in 6.5CM currently sporting Leupold's Mark 5HD 2-10x30.  My original plan was to pop Leica's Calonx 2 in front of it, but I also have another DNT thermal coming, so I am leaning toward putting the DNT on the Steyr and keeping the Leica as a spare in case something breaks down.  One of the many ncie things about the Leica is that it is pre-collimated, i.e. there is no sighting in requried https://alnk.to/3ygwDEh  That way, if someone's thermal goes down, I can just swap it for the Leica in the field.

Now, I just need to decide who gets which gun.

 

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Taking another stab at a general purpose rifle
What does "GP Rifle" mean to you?

Every once in a while I go back to an idea of a general purpose rifle and massage it a little.

I suspect that the reason I keep on coming back to it is that many years ago I read a good number of Colonel Cooper's work and always thought that his idea of a scout rifle was very interesting.

In a nutshell, Cooper's scout was a bolt action rifle of less than 40" long, chambered for 308Win or similar, set up with a scout scope (he seemed to like to use stripper clips and needed access to he action) and a Ching sling.  It was supposed to be capable of hunting animals the size of a cow elk out to 400 yards while weighing in at less than 8lbs.  

Fixed power scout scopes are very light, so that weight was achievable.

While I like scout scopes, conventional LPVOs and MPVOs knock the socks off any scout scope in terms of real world performance, so I am willing to accept a little extra weight.

On top of that, I am a firm believer that all rifles should be suppressed, which adds length.

Then, there is the case or various modern attachments that did not really exist when the good Colonel was refining his concept.  While I do not need a thermal clip-on to be on the gun all the time, I do want the capability of adding one in.

Last consideration is whether to go with a bolt-gun or semi-auto.  

I have been pursuing this "General Purpose Rifle" concept for quite a long time.  That was the reason I bought my original Fix boltgun.  I thought of it as a conceptual reincarnation of the scout idea.
My original Fix started life configured with a 16" 308Win Barrel.  It was light, handy and awesome.  This was the exact configuration except with the full length rail: https://eurooptic.sjv.io/k4EvKx

Then, I succumbed to temptation and swapped that 16" Bartlein barrel for a 24" carbon fiber Proof barrel in the same caliber.  It is still my favourite gun of all I have.  I have taken precision classes with it, hunted with it and shot matches with it, but it is no longer a scout rifle.  The barrel and suppressor together add up to more than 30".  It is not very heavy, but it is also not very short.

For a little while, I had another Fix configured with a 16" barrel and chambered for 8.6BLK.  It is an incredibly versatile cartridge and that was a perfect scout rifle.   I shot a cow elk with it at 338 yards to prove the concept.  

Since it worked really well and I can't leave anything well enough alone, I took it apart when I started shooting matches and rebuilt it as 22" 6.5CM precision rifle that you have seen in many pictures since.
The other idea I had was to see what can be done with a truly short barrel, so I built myself another 8.6BLK Fix (I really like these guns, in case you havn't caught onto that yet) around an 8" barrel I already had.  It is surprisingly capable with supersonic ammo and exceedingly handy.  I have not yet decided whether I am willing to shoot a cow elk at 400 yards with it, but I am taking it on an axis doe hunt in a couple of weeks.

When Cooper first defined his scout concept he was not opposed to semi-auto platforms per se, but had some misgivings on whether they can be made sufficiently accurate and reliable.

Technology keeps getting better though and when Q announced their Boombox semi-auto in 8.6BLK, there was a faint echo of "is this my modern scout rifle?" reverberating in far reaches of my brain.

Compared to the Fix with the same length barrel, the Boom Box is about a pound heavier and does everything very well.  Mine has been perfectly reliable.  Primary Arms PLxC 1.5-12x36 is a perfect match for its general purpose nature.  https://alnk.to/b7D6rbe

Together with the suppressor and a flashlight, the Boombox clocks in at just under 11lbs.  If I drop a thermal clip-on onto it (usually Leica https://eurooptic.sjv.io/PO317X ), it is a bit over 12lbs

It is, however, even more expensive than the Fix.  While Boombox price is comparable or lower than that of other semi-auto rifles of comparable quality (Seekins SP10M, etc https://eurooptic.sjv.io/n4x64A , it is still a lot of money.  As much as I hate to admit it, it is kinda difficult to say with a straight face that a gun carrying a price tag that makes the vast majority of gun enthusiasts' hearts skip a beat is any sort of "General Purpose".  As configured above, it is over $7k (before you add the thermal).

That made me step back for a moment and remember that there are three commercially available scout rifles out there that I happen have pretty good familiarity with.  The least expensive ones that I messed with are from Ruger and Savage.  They have had a few iterations over the years, but you can generally pick one up for somewhere in the $700 to $800 range chambered for a few different cartridges, 308Win and 6.5CM among them.  They work well enough, but they are not what I would call polished.  Still, if price is part of the equation, these are nicely robust and very "general purpose" guns.  I have seen quite a few people use them as truck guns.

I have set up a couple of these for my friends over the years and have no complaints of how well they perform for the money.  I think Mossberg also makes their own variant that is even less expensive, but I have no experience with it.

Neither Savage nor Ruger, however, is the original scout.  Cooper made several prototypes and then teamed up with Steyr to make a commercially available scout rifle.  The first Steyr scout rifle went on sale in the 1990s right around the time I was becoming interested in firearms.  It was far out of reach of a broke college student and then my priorities shifted.  Some longing still remained.

Price-wise, Steyr scout usually clocks in somwhere in the $1600 to $2000 price range.  While not inexpensive, it is closer to the Savage/Ruger/Mossberg than it is to the Fix and the Boombox.  I think I'll go ahead and decree that it then qualifies as a general purpose rifle.

Rather importantly for me, it has a longer top rail than any of the less expensive options offering significant flexibility.  It also has a simple bipod built into the stock and exta magazine storage in the buttstock.  

All of that is nice, but more importantly, Steyr's SBS action and hammer-forged barrel are absolutely world class.

I am planning to take it with me on a hunt in a couple of weeks (I am going for axis deer and bringing three new hunters to hunt hogs on the same property).  I have four rifles to set up and one of them is the Steyr Scout in 6.5CM.  Since I also have a Leupold Mark 5HD 2-10x30 to test, I needed to go sight it in with hunting ammo.  I did not have time to shoot longer shot strings (that thin barrel needs time to cool), but here are three shots at 100yards using Hotline Munitions' 124gr VLR4 ammo https://discreetballistics.com/shop/hotline-munitions-6-5-creedmoor-124gr-hunting/

Three shot groups do not tell the full story of how accurate the rifle really is, but this is an indication that the mechancial accuracy of this gun is rather promising.  At some point, I will explore it more carefully, but for the time being this is plenty for shooting hogs inside of 200 yards.

As configured, this rifle clocks in at 10.2lbs with the optics, suppressor, two empty magazines and an RS1 sling (it is kinda like Ching sling, but better):

While I am testing the Mark 5HD 2-10x30 with CMR-MIL reticle https://alnk.to/4XAA7at this gun will also be a test bed for N-Vision's new clip-on that should be here in a few days.  

I rather like the baby Mark 5 and it is not a bad match to the rifle.  However, I have other long term plans for it since it has enough elevation adjustment for my long range subsonic hobby.  I waited to test the 2-10x30 Mark 5HD for quite a while since I wanted it with the CMR-MIL reticle

It remains to be seen which scope will end up on the Steyr scout, but Element Theos 2-10x42 is probably the front runner at the moment.  That's the right magnification range for the scout and 42mm objective is a good balance of size and low light performance.  

My Steyr Scout is a couple of pounds above Cooper's weight cutoff in exchange for a built-in bipod, suppressor and a significantly more capable optic.  The barrel is 19" and the suppressor adds another five to it.  It is accurate, robust, and sufficiently light for almost everything I do.  While not a budget build, it is also not unreasonable price-wise.  I think that makes it a true general purpose rifle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2026 Del Norte Black Rifle Match

Yesterday was the annual charity match at Del Norte range an hour or so from Albuquerque.  We had fairly ridiculous amounts of water falling from the sky in the last few days and all the unpaves roads leading to the range did not take it well.  Still, it stopped rainign for a day so that we could go shoot.

This is a one gun match where you shoot some combination of paper and steel.  Steel plates are a bit further out.  Paper is all close in.  You are scored based on hits and how fast you run the stage.  I am old, fat and slow, so I am terrible at this, but the match is a lot of fun.

It does not help that I have been so focused on precision last couple of years that I have somewhat neglected the fast stuff.  I should really fix that.  There are some two gun matches at Legacy Ranch (an hour in the other direction from Albuquerque) on a fairly regular basis that I should try for practice.

This year, for shits and giggles, I decided to shoot it with an AK-74 which slowed me down even further, but it was definitely fun.

Last year's match was themed after John Wick movies.  This year, it was a Chuck Norris theme.

While some of the shooters are out to win, since it is a charity match, the atmosphere is very laid back and people do funny things here and there.

For example, one gentleman in my squad dressed as a tactical wizard (I think):

Tactical wizard next to a kilt wearing RO was, I thought, a nice scene.

He had a suppressor enclosed by a Monster can on his AR.  The whole thing was a hoot.

Another gentleman insisted on running stages with the bayonet attached to his AR.  One one of the paper targets that was really close, the ROs let hime bayonet it instead of shooting it.  It was a ncie A-Zone stab.

The carbine I brought for this was an AK74 from Palmetto State Armory https://alnk.to/bEnbIaI with AKML handguard from TDI Arms, DFCO grip, Zhukov stock and Primary Arms PLxC SFP 1-8x24 scope in an RS Regulate mount.  If you are looking for a nucelar bright SFP LPVO with a fiber dot, I will go on the record that at current discounted price, this is the best deal I have seen in a while https://alnk.to/88424vv

As shown, this rifle clocked in at 9.3lbs.  It is definitely not a lightweight, but it was not too heavy either.  I put it through several experiments with different stocks and pic rail dust covers that did not work out well enough for my purposes.  MOst annoyingly, the 1913 stock adaptor kept on getting loose, so I finally slapped Magpul's Zhukov stock on it and went back to the normal AK side mount for the scope.  It is not as slick as I wanted it, but it works.  Another experiment that failed was with getting a suppressor on it.  On this AK-74, the muzzle device is threade donto the side block.  It is not straight enough for a suppressor.  I was getting baffle strikes on a 6mm can.  I coule try a growwly oversized can, I suppose, but I decided to leave it along and put the original muzzle device on.  I still maintain that all guns should be suppressed, but they are not all designed to be suppressed.

In principle, if I wanted to shoot more matches, a longer handguard would go a long way toward helping me drive the gun, but I intentionally decided to run everything as if it has an 11" barrel and a correspondingly short handguard.  I think that muscle memory will translate optimally between different platforms I have.

I will be the first to admit that I may have overscoped this AK a little bit, but on the other hand, given that the scope is pretty light, I do not really see a problem.  At this match, the furthest plates were about 300 yards out, so I appreciated being able to zoom in a little, while on 1x with that bright fiber dot, this scope is fast.

For an AK, this gun has a decent ALG trigger, but having spent the last couple  of years with precision rifles and match triggers, it gave me fits.  It was also very hard to get myself out of the "precision" mode.  I could definitely go faster if my head was not getting in the way.  I think I will do some work on that in the next few weeks.  In the grand scheme of things, 5.56 plining ammo is now cheaper than 5.45x39, but I think I should practice this with different platforms.  I still have some AK specific muscle memory, but I was definitely rusty.

With Wolf 60gr Military Classic ammo launching at 2750fps (with 18fps StDev) the rifle shot groups in the 2MOA to 2.5MOA range standing tripod (I almost never shoot off of a bench any more, so I popped a bag on a tripod and shot off of that) which is plenty good enough for this type of a match.  Intrinsic accuracy of the gun did not get in my way.  However, managing the long spongy trigger pull for longer shots and for offhand shots was a little tricky.  Still, it is my own fault that I neglected practicing with my AKs.  

The match was originally supposed to be eight stages.   I was in quad six, so we shot 6, 7, 8, 1, 2 and 3 before we had to stop.  I have a couple of videos that I am going to look through, stitch together and post.

Just as we were about to shoot stage 4, everyone was told to stop and the range went cold.  Apparently, one of the ROs on a different stage was clearing his handgun (ROs were allowed to have handguns) and shot himself in the hand.  I did not witness it, but that is what I was told.  He was taken to the hospital and seems to be doing OK.  However, our day was done.

It is an unfortunate accident and it sounds like it was self-inflicted.  One of the board memebers from the range went and visited him in the hopsital.  He will need surgery.  Someone also mentioned that this is the second time this gentleman shot himself.  I am not sure what to make of that.  I do not know him personally.  We'll see if there are any further repercussions for the range or for the event moving forward.

There was also a night event (for stages shot with night vision), but I could not participate in that one due to various family obligations.  We are in the middle of a Jewish hoiday of sukkot and my wife already made plans for it.

Watching people bring different guns to this match was very interesting.  Some used ARs on longer stages and a PCC on close range stuff.  It never occurred to me to have multiple guns with me.  One gentleman had what looked like a suppressed PS90 SBR.  A couple of peopl had AKs.  I saw a CZ Scorpion and a B&T SBC9.  I am sure there were a few other unusual choices there, but most people were shooting AR-15s of all sorts.

I have some time to figure out what I will bring next year, but a P320 in a Flux Raider chassis could be an interesting option.

 

 

 

 

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