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Scoping a Ruger 10/22
September 01, 2022

I get a lot of questions sent to me via private messages on different platforms.  I try to answer everything when I can, although at this point, I do not think I get to all of them.  There are a lot of questions and not a lot of time.  That's one of the reasons I started this community.  It is my primary focus.
However, when I do get an interesting question that is specific enough to make a substantive post, I bring it here.  Also, Locals seems to be rolling out a better text editor with a function the call "Create Article".  This is a good opportunity to try it out.


This came in from a gentleman I have talked to before and the question is timely since a couple of 10/22 projects are close to wrap and I plan to talk about them a bit shortly.

I’m looking into an optic for a 10/22 that I use for hunting cottontail rabbit in my yard and would like to practice long range shooting fundamentals with it as well. I have a 100yd range in my yard as well. I think I’d like a mil tree, close adjustable parallax, good turrets, and zero stop. Athlon has several options that were attractive, I think my top end budget would be at the Ares ETR UHD for 725, or XTR3i for 864 (I would then put my favorite between the 7 Conquer and one of those on my 308 gas gun and the other on my 10/22). Those are a bit more than I really want to spend, and was more considering the Helos BTR 2-12, Ares BTR 2.5-15, Kentucky Long 2-12 or 3-18 all ranging from 350-600. The obvious shortcoming of the Swampfox being no zero stop, but I’m not experienced enough to know if that should really sway my decision.

This was followed up a day or so later with an addendum:

I just came across the meopta optika6 3-18x50 FFP mrad 1 rd to add to my list. Seems to check all the boxes minus being in that upper price range.

This is a really well worded question because of how many specifics are in there.  When I am asked a good question, I can usually provide an appropriately actionable answer.

We are dealing with some verson of a 10/22 that is accurate enough for small game hunting, plinking and proper long range practice, so the scope needs to have parallax that adjusts down to at least 25 yards. It needs to have enough magnification to engage fairly small targets out to about 400 yards (I assume that he will take it out of his backyard 100yard range at some point).  It needs to have enough adjustment range to accomodate 400yard drop with 22LR.  Once again, I do not know if he will ever go that far, but if I am setting up a scope for a rimfire trainer, I want to make sure it is capable of that.  400 yards with a 10/22 is VERY hard.  It is very hard with any rimfire, to be honest, but it is nice to have a goal.  On the other hand, the bulk of his shooting for a while is likely to be at 100 yards and in.  A fair amount will be on small game, possibly shooting fairly quickly.  With that in mind, while we set up for long range, it is important to not compromise shooting at closer distance on small and mobile targets.  That means we need to keep low magnification at 3x or thereabouts.

High magnification is open to interpretation, but given that rimfire targets tend to be very small, I would keep it at above 15x.

To reach 400yards (admittedly a stretch goal), you will need around 20mrad of turret adjustment after zeroing, but that can be combined with reticle holds.  Since he is looking for a scope with a tree reticle, it is a fairly viable way to go, though not ideal.

Now, the gentleman asking the question clearly understands all of that, given the scopes he is asking about.  He also clearly states he would prefer to stay under $600, but can go a little higher if he has to.

Before we go onto the specific recommendations, there is also a questoin of how necessary the zero stop is.  To be blunt, if you plan to spend a lot of time twisting turrets, it is pretty nice to have.  More improtantly, given that there are plenty of options out there with a zero stop, I would not by a scope (for this application) without one.  

Let's go over the scopes he mentions:

Athlon Ares ETR UHD, presumably the 3-18x50 model.  I am not sure where he found it for $725, since it seems to be around $1k in most places.  This is a very good option. magnification range is just about right.  Ares ETR scopes have very good image quality and unexpectedly good turrets.  APLR6 MIL reticle is very good: just enough of everything without unnecessary crap.  Total elevation adjustment is right around 32 mrad, so if you put it on a 20 or 30MOA slopes base, it is likely to have enough adjustment for 400yards.  Between that and the reticle you are all set.  It also focuses down to 10 yards.  In other words, it is a really excelent rimfire scope for general purpose use from plinking to precision shooting.  https://bit.ly/3P4yzBO

Burris XTR3i 3.3-18x50 should probably be the top choice here, but until I spend some time with it, I can't give it a full endorsement.  The prototypes looked very good.  Once again, I have no idea where he found it for $864.  It has even more adjustment range than the Athlon at 35mrad and a really wide FOV.  SCR2 is an excellent reticle.  Pending a full review, it really should be a top choice.  Now, I do not see XTR3i scopes listed around a whole lot yet.  Most of what I see is for the original US-made XTRIII.  While it is a really excellent design, the reticle is thing and not illuminated.  For me, that is a show stopper, but YMMV: https://bit.ly/3Q7O6RN

Athlon Helos BTR 2-12x42 is a really nice scope and I actually had it on my 10/22 for a bit.  In the end, I decided to put it on a different gun.  I think the reticle on it is designed for DMR-ish applicatoins and the center dot is too big for me to use on a rimfire.  If it w a dedicated rabbit hunting gun, that's a different ballgame, but I prefer a smaller aiming dot for 22LR applications.  For general purpose hunting, it is a great reticle though with good visibility across the board https://bit.ly/3CPU9XZ  It is a bit less magnification than I'd want for long range training purposes, but if we take that down a notch, it does have clsoe focus and 32mrad of adjustment.  It is a solid choice, but check on whether the reticle will work for you.

Athlon Ares BTR Gen2 2.5-15x50 really looks good on paper.  It also looks good in person.  It is not quite as good as Ares ETR, but it is also less money.  APRS5 is a good reticle, but ETR's APRS6 is better.  It also has 29mrad of adjustment, which makes it a little harder to make it to 400 yards.  It is a very good option for the money, but if you want to go with Athlon, I would be very tempted to just step up to the ETR with its extra adjustment and wider FOV eyepiece.  Either way, it is a very workable option with good close focus and lighter weight https://bit.ly/3wPAbc6

SwampFox Kentucky Long scope are quite good.  I reviewed one and have seen several more.  My basic problem is that they do not have a zero stop.  That having been said, if you do plan to ush the rifle to 400 yards and prefer to hold with the reticle, Kentucky Long 3-18x50 with Recce Mil reticle should be on your list.  It is very good image for the money.  3-18x50 would be my choice here https://bit.ly/3Q7U459

What else is out there that might work?  Well, I ahve a couple of 10/22 rifles, one is a takedown with a compact scope, but the other one is sorta relevant here.  It is my experiment with a fast twist precision 10/22 barrel.  It sits in the Titan stock and wears the new Element Titan 3-18x50 scope: https://bit.ly/3bBFfJP

As you have already figured out, I like the 3-18x configuration on these crossover rimfire designs and Titan kinda checks all boxes here: it focuses down to 10yards, has a very good APR-2D reticle, tracks like a champ and offers 43mrad of adjustment range.  It is a near ideal crossover rimfire scope for my purposes.

The outside option here and the likely bang for the buck choice is probably the US Optics 3-12x44 that you can still, incredibly, get from Eurooptic for $350: https://bit.ly/3fmvgpD  It is short, light, has close focus and 30mrad of adjustment.  There are three things it does not have though: illumination, tree reticle and zero stop.  That's the scope I have on my other 10/22 and it is a perfect there, but illumination and zero stop would definitely take it to another level.  Optomechanically though, it really works well while being really lightweight and short.

Lastly, if you are not planning to go to 400 yards, i.e. if you do not need all that much elevation adjustment, looking for a used Vortex PST Gen2 3-15x44 might not be a bad idea.  It check every other box.  Meopta Optika6 3-18x50 is sorta in the same category.  I amclearly partial to this design since it has my reticle in it and it does work well, but with 26mrad of adjustment, it is best to stay with 200yards on a 22LR.  Very nice design otherwise.

 

 

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In reference to competition style scopes. Ones that seem geared towards PRS or other similar styles of shooting. Is there some good reason that the manufacturers constantly put out stuff with a low end mag that is basically unusable? Weight? Clarity? Something else?
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Reference Standard, 2025
Quite a few changes

 

As a reminder, the plan is to choose scopes as my reference standards in a few categories and make sure I keep them on hand for at least a year or so.  If they move on somewhere, I have to designate something else as the reference standard in that category.  There might be a couple of reference standard designs in each category to split them by price range.

Here is the riflescope categorization that I like to use https://darklordofoptics.locals.com/post/5212669/riflescope-type-classification 

Do keep in mind, that some categories I am not as well versed in as I'd like to be.  Also, there might be scopes in each category I consider exceptional, but do not have on hand.  Reference standard has to be something I have here and will use as a basis for comparisons.  I will endeavor to use optics that I believe to be at the top of their category, but it is not always possible.  Natirually, these will lean heavily toward mrad designs.  I avoid MOA like the plague whenever possible.

 

Fixed 1x
Interestingly, I do not actually have any 1x prismatics at the moment.  However, a friend of mine inherited the PA GLx 1x and my brother has Primary Arms SLx 1x Microprism.  https://bit.ly/3uLqu0E I Most of the differences between modern 1x prismatics come down to reticles and eyebox.  On balance, GLx is probably the yardstick for the rest of them.

 

Fixed mag small prism
No changes here.  This can go in a variety of different directions depending on personal preferences and price.  It is not practical to have a reference standard for every magnification and with compact prismatics I do like 3x as a good compromise magnification.  These scopes are a step up from people who have been using red dots with magnifiers and want a better experience at distance.  This one will also go to Primary Arms.  Technically, I like GLx 2x more than SLx 3x, but 2x is such a unique magnification that it is not a very good yard stick for comparisons.  SLX 3x Microprism it is, then.  

 

Fixed mag large prism

Somewhat oddly, with large prism scopes, I start leaning toward higher magnifications.  I want these in 4x or 5x.  I view these differently.  These are, to me, alternatives to LPVOs and spiritual successors of old general purpose 4x and 6x fixed power scopes, except more compact and with wider FOV.  There a couple of good options and, unsurprisingly, my favourites are Element Immersive 5x30  and the discontinued Elcan Spectre OS 4x.  The dual power Spectre DR is still thriving, as expensive as it is.    I have the single magnification 4x and it is a very good yardstick for what a high end prismatic should be.  With the Element, I am clearly biased since I designed the reticle for it.  In other words, I got to put a reticle I could not get other people to make into a scope I like.  You should not be terribly surprised to see it here.

 

LPVO

This one gets tough and there will be several options here.  Keep in mind that I like FFP LPVOs once we get up in price.  One of the reasons it gets tough is that as I keep putting together ARs for various family members, different LPVOs I have tend to migrate elsewhere.

With budget LPVOs, for now, I think Primary Arms SLx 1-6x24 with Nova reticle is the one to beat, but I no longer hae one here.  I should probably get another one and keep it here for comparison purposes.

On the mid-range, it is a battle between SAI6 1-6x24 with mrad reticle and the new PA PLxC 1-8x24 with day bright reticle illumination.  With PA, the reticle got a bit better sicne they went to diffractive illumination, but I would prefer a short mil tree of some sort.  It is light and short with an excellent eyepiece.  With SAI6, I like the whole reticle line-up but lean toward the mrad designs for general purpose use.  The X-Wing style high visbility feature is not for everyone, but it works for me.  I suppose I will keep both here.  

If you go up in price, my basic opinion has not changed.  Vortex Razor Gen3 1-10x24 is the one to beat if you want a nuclear bright reticle.  However, the notably less expensive PA PLxC with RDB reticle is absolutely giving it a run for its money.  The mrad reticle in the Vortex is more my cup of tea, though.

This leaves a little of a "no-man's land" with LPVOs that are designed to be true general purpose designs, like the side focus equipped March Shorty 1-10x24 and Delta Stryker 1-10x28.  They are a little too different to serve as a useful yardstick for anything but each other.  I ended up keeping the Delta.  Side focus really helps behind clip-ons.

 

Dangerous Game

I may have to skip one because I do not really have anything on hand right now (rifle-wise) that fits the description.  If I were to buy one, let's say a traditional 375H&H or 416Rigby, it would get Primary Arms' PLxC 1-8x24 SFP with fiber reticle.  In case it has not come through too well, I really like the PLxC line-up.

 

MPVO

For the time being, the one to rule them all is the dual focal plane March 1.5-15x42 https://bit.ly/4bjm15X  This category, almost by definition, is the one where compromises are made for the most flexibility.  This March is not perfect, but it is the best we currently have.  On the budget end, the yardstick should be Athlon's excellent Helos BTR Gen2 2-12x42, but it is sitting on top of a friend of mine's rifle two states to the West.  It can't be a reference standard if it is not here.  In the meantime, the old reliable SWFA SS 3-9x42 will do.  I have a couple of them.  https://swfa.com/swfa-3-9x42-ss-hd-mil-quad-reticle-30mm-tube-1-mil-clicks-ffp/

There is a big gap between a $600 SWFA and a $3100 March.  In the mid-range, Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42 with STR-Mil reticle is easily my favourite.  If I were going to have only one MPVO and I was payign for it out of my own pocket, Steiner would probably be it, so it is staying here.

 

Tweener

I do not like to use a discontinued scope as a yardstick, but Razor HD LH 1.5-8x32 has got to be it.  It is not a common scope category, so we will hoble along like this until I come up with something still manufactured (that fits the profile and I like).  On the low-ish end of the price range,  I do like SWFA 2.5-10x32 Ultralight and have a couple of them.  https://swfa.com/swfa-2-5-10x32-ss-ultralight-msr-556-bdc-reticle-1-tube-25-moa-clicks/ 

GPO makes a 1.5-9x32, but I do not have one.

 

Crossover

For once, this one is easy and I'll keep it all within a sane-ish price range.  Vortex Razor HD-LHT 4.5-22x50 and Delta Stryker 3.5-21x44 https://annexdefense.com/delta-stryker-hd-3-5-21x44-rifle-scope/ are the purest expressions of the crossover idea I have seen to date, this side of Tangent TT315M that you will see a couple of categories down.

 

Traditional Hunting

This get difficult again because it is not a type of a scope that is common around these parts and the ones I look at do not stick around too long.  I simply happen to be an FFP guy.  However, some hunting scope articles are very much overdue and I do have an excellent Delta Titanium 1.5-9x45.  In sticking with sane prices, let's add Tract Toric 2.5-15x44 with illuminated reticle to this list. 

These two should give me a decent ability to compare.  On the high end, there is the rather remarkable Tangent Theta Long Range Hunter that is the one to beat which is why it is not going anywhere.

 

General Purpose Practical Precision

Given how much this crosses over with, pun intended, crossover designs above, I could have merged them into signle category.  It would make too much sense so here we are.  Tangent Theta TT315M 3-15x50 is still it to me.  It does have limited elevation travel, so you have to be somewhat careful with how you mount it (in extreme cases, Burris XTR Signature rings where you can use their inserts to adjust slope may be needed).   Still, I have found nothing better yet.

If you want something more reasonably priced, I am going to go with the Telson Toxin 3-18x50 which repalces the very nice Burris XTR3i 3.3-18x50.  Both are very solid scopes, but Telson reticle has better visibility and it controls flare a little better.

 

Long Range Practical Precision

I might catch a lot of flack for this one, but so be it.  

High end: There are several spectacularly capable options, but there is a reason I shoot with the different Tangent Thetas, 5-25x56 and 7-35x56

Best bang for the buck on the high end: Vortex Razor Gen3 6-36x56 https://alnk.to/74xn2BV

Mid-range: Delta Stryker 4.5-30x56 (there is a bunch of simlar scopes in this category and I happen to have this one) and Burris XTR PS 5.5-30x56.  I think the heads up display in the XTR PS is a meangful innovation and is the way of the future.

Budget long range: Meopta Optika6 5-30x56 is a pretty decent scope and the one I have(again, there are several to choose from that are similar, but this one is on hand).  Unfortunately it is discontinued.

DNT The One 7-35x56 is easily one of the better budget options and it is here for now.  I am not sure if I will use the DNT as the reference standard since I have a couple of other heading this way that might occupy this role.  I'll know soon.

 

Short Range Target:

I'll have to skip this one for now since I do not do anything along these lines.  The closest I get is my rimfire trainer and I use Vortex Razor Gen3 on that rifle with good success.

 

Long Range Target:

Ditto.  It is not a category I look at much, so I do not have anything on hand that will fit.  I will rectify that.  Until then, the best paper shooting scope I have and intend to keep is March 5-42x56.  It bridges several categories nicely since it is FFP, but it pulls target shooting duty for me.  If I decide to do a comparison review on target scopes, this March will serve as the reference standard.  https://bit.ly/3TdABox

Field Target:

I do not have a Field Target setup, so this category is going to be skipped for now.  Hopefuly, not for too long.  If I were to start shooting Field Target, I'd be using the 5-42x56 March mentioned above.

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