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November 10, 2022
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As I have mentioned a little while back, SunwayFoto has introduced (and is continuing to introduce) a series of products aimed at the shooting and hunting market.

I was curious, so I got my hands on a few and have been using them.  This particualr tripod is the first of the reviews that I am publishing.  The video will be out in a week or so.

The tripod in question is TL3240CS-Q (doesn't that just roll off the toungue?) and it has spent some time on the range:

and some time in the field:

This particular tripod is very new, so I have not yet seen it at any of the retailers.  Here is a link to it on SunwayFoto's website.

A similar tripod with collar locks on the legs does seem to be available from a few retaielrs like Adorama: https://adorama.rfvk.net/Ea3q2n, but if you decide to buy it directly from SunwaFoto and use code "DLO", it will get you 5% off.

The choice between collar locks and lever lock is sorta individual.  For heavy duty applications, collar locks are probably a little more robust.  Personally, all else being equal, I prefer lever locks since they give me immediate visual confirmation on whether the leg segments are locked or not.

The tripod comes nicely packaged with 1/4-20 and M-lok ARCA plates, spike feet and all the appropriate allen wrenches.  The machining quality on everything looks quite good.  I tried the ARCA plates with a variety of clamps I have here and nothing looks to be out of spec.  Carbon fiber legs do not have any obvious manufacturing defects that I can see.

The tripod itself is an interesting design.  It has a 38mm ball head, but the non-removable ball head is integrated into the tripod so that it sits very low.  That greatly aids stability.  If you imagine a convergence point (where the axis of each tripod leg would end up), it is right where the ARCA clamp is.  Is it as stable as my heavy duty bowl top tripods? probably not.  It is more stable than I expected it to be though.  It is also light enough to take to the field with me.  This is a hunting tripod, not a longe range competition one.  SunwayFoto does have heavier duty tripods, but I was looking for somehting light enough to comfortably strap to m pack.  The tripod weighs in right around 4lbs and at that weight I am quite impressed with the stability.  The downside of setting up the ballhead that way, of course, is that you loose some range of motion.  You still get about 35 degreed in any direction from center.  That is sufficeint for my purposes.  The Arca clamp has a couple of levels integrated into it on opposite sides of each other, so you have an indicator of tilt.  Some sort of a tipping angle indicator could be good as well, in principle, but tilt is more importnat here.

There is no center column, so height adjustment is done with the legs, which is one of the reasons I like the levers.  Locking the ballhead down is also done via a lever.  Lever operation is nicely smooth.  My preferred way to set it up for shooting is with the lever on the opposite side of the tripod from me:

Most people prefer to operate the lever with their thumbs, but I like to keep my hand a little higher, so this is how I use it.

When I first received it, I went to the range and the clamp starting flopping around under recoil.  I said some uncompimentary things abotu the design that turned out to be premature.  Whoever assembled it at the factory installed the clamp onto the spline coming out of the ballhead incorrectly.  See all that air under the clamp? You are not supposed to see that.

It was installed 90 degrees off:

Once I got it properly lined up, the spline was at 90 degrees to the recoil direction which is how you want this stuff to be.

Even when installed correctly, there was a touch of extra space that I ended up shimming with some aluminum tape.  It is a common problem with most tripods out there, especially with manufacturers that come into this from the photography side of things.  Recoil does introduce considerations that do not exist in photo/video applications.  That spline should really be mated via a tapered interface to avoid a potential tolerance stack up.  Still, once I stopped exercising my vocabulary, I got it to work properly in a matter of a few minutes.  Thanks to the thin shims and a little blue loctite, nothing loosened up afterwards.

I've spent a fair bit of time shooting off of the tripod at the range and a LOT of time glassing in the field.

With a low binocular adaptor, glassing standing was slightly uncomfortable.  I am six foot tall and the tripod was just a hair too low:

Most of the glassing I did was sitting down, however, so that was not an issue.  For glassing, a center column comes in helpful for small adjustments, but for shooting it would not be good for stability.   I think this tripopd's configuration is a good compromise of size, flexibility and stability.

The legs can be opened very wide to get low and increase stability.  I played with it at the range, but in the field, I had to get above tall grass, so I could not get that low.  

I was a little concerned that I could get a spring-like effect with the legs, but 32mm carbon fiber tubes are pretty stiff.  No issues there.  Each leg can be set up at three different angles, but given the terrain I really did not exercise that very much.

Note, that in most of these pictures I am using the rifle adapter from Spartan Precision since that is how the two rifles we've been huntin with this season are set up.  That places the gun a little higher than it would be if I were going direct to a weapon mounted arca plate.

Also, keep in mind that the tripod I have came with an Arca clamp.  However, SunwayFoto does make a clamp that can attach to both Arca and picatinny rails: https://adorama.rfvk.net/ORj1xN I might get one and swap it out on this tripod.  I assume it should work fine, but I'll doublecheck. 

Edited to add: They do offer it with the dual clamp now as well.

What are my conclusions so far?

Overall, mostly positive.  Nothing failed on me in the field.  Build quality is good.  I would prefer to see a combined Arca/Picatinny clamp on this tripod.  Given the application, it would give it a little more flexibility, but with Arca being so ubiquitous what I have is a good setup.

The low mounted ballhead is an unusual and rather effective re-interpretation of a traditional tripod head.  I'll keep using it and post any updates if I uncover anything new.

 

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The muzzle device is Q's Bottle Rocket on top of a Cherry Bomb.  

The bipod is Gunwerks' Elevate.

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The bipod is Gunwerks' Elevate.

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I have to admit that Area 419's muzzle brake is pretty impressive.  The rifle is now extremely soft shooting and the muzzle stays down.

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Trident Barrel
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At this point, I do not remember any more how I stumbled on this barrel, but it is not unusual for me to be looking for relatively random things while I can't sleep at night.
Then again, given how much time I spend at the range, looking at different AR barrels is not all that random.
My take on AR-15s is that they are supposed to be lightweight and accurate enough to reach to the outer limits of the capability envelope of whatever they happened to be chambered for.  I know they are plenty of people out there with freakishly accurate AR-15s that are set up with thick barrel.  They are impressively consistent, but a heavy AR-15 sorta defeats the purpose of an AR-15 to me.
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Most of my ARs are a lot lighter than that and they are built around 16" barrels of moderate weight.
Ideally, I want this rifle to weigh no more than 8lbs with a scope, typically an LPVO of some sort.  This is the type of rifle I expect to be equally comfortable doing timed short range drills and shooting plates between 600 and 800 yards (with appropriate ammo).
Over the years, you have seen pictures of several of these variants.  One of my favourites is built around a 16" Proof Research carbon fiber barrel.  That's the AR in this video:


I have another one built around an experimental 16" barrel that is sleeved in AlSiC, a rather exotic material.  That way of making barrels did not go into production, unfortunately.  It is not the most intrinsically accurate barrel I have, but it is very well behaved when hot.
Naturally, I also have a couple that simply have thin, near-pencil profiles.
The basic problem with most of the light weight barrels I have seen to date, is what happens when the barrel heats up.  Most barrels end up with substantially larger groups when hot, which is OK.  However, quite a few of them end up with the group centroid also changing, sometimes significantly, which is not OK.
That is an especially commo problem with carbon fiber wrapped barrels.  Christensen barrels are famous for their wandering zero.  Proof Research barrels seem to be better and the two I have do not wander around when warmed up.  However, it appears that some do.  With carbon fiber wrapped barrels I tested, Proof was the best, but it has been a little while since I experimented with it.  More recently, I have heard from others that Helix6 and Bartlein barrels are more consistent, but heavier. 

Most lightweight barrels designed for light weight have an odd (to me) profile with too much metal removed by the chamber.  Some years ago, Adams Arms had their own pencil profile barrel that left a lot more metal near the chamber, then went thing quickly.  The way Q does their light weight barrel is also done with heat distribution in mind.  Their barrel leave a lot of metal near the chamber, then run what is essentially a straight taper.

All this barrel research is probably how I stumbled onto the Trident Barrel from X2 Devgroup https://x2devgroup.com/trident-barrel/

It has very deep flutes which dramatically cuts weight.  It is about five ounces lighter than my carbon fiber Proof barrel of the same length.  Fluting can often cause problems when not properly stress relieved, but it seemed like they were paying attention to this kind of stuff and taking care to not introduce stress.  After digging through my memory banks a little, I remembered that a know someone at that company.  It was time to pick his brain.  He is a pretty serious shooter, and he was happy with these barrels.  Then he said something that made me perk up and pay attention.  He talked about vibration and how these barrels felt "dead".  That is a lot of the same verbiage I hear about structured barrels from TacomHQ.  Once my interest was properly peaked, I looked around, relaized I have enough spare parts to build an upper and that I have a built up AR-15 lower that is not attached to anything.

Once the barrel got here, I gave it a careful look.  In terms of the quality and consistency of the machining, it looked very good.  Those are some seriously deep flutes though.

The barrel, somewhat unusually, is dimpled for both of the gasblock screws and in a way that will work with the majority of gas blocks out there.

I had an Aero upper and an Aero handguard of relatively ghastly color, that probably explains why it was heavily discounted.  Since I fully expect it to be scratched up and covered by dust before too long, I could not care less.

I plan to run it with and without a suppressor, so I added Q's Cherry Bomb compensator to it.  As this is written, I have not fired it yet, but will shotly.  After some consideration, I decided to mount March's excellent 1.5-15x42 MPVO on it. https://alnk.to/b7zh0YQ  That is still the purest expresssion of the MPVO concept on the market today, so I thought it was appropriate.  Depending on how it performs, March may or may not stay on there permanently.  However, for initial break in, long range practice and accuracy evaluation, it knocks the socks off of any and every LPVO ever made.

Most AR-15s are reasonably broken in somewhere between 200 and 500 rounds, so I am not going to stress about accuracy too much in the beginning.  I'll get it sighted in, do some positional shooting and keep an eye on whether there is any abnormal behavious.

The rifle ended up weighing a bit under 6lbs without optics and a bit under 8lbs with March 1.5-15x42 in Burris XTR Signature rings. https://alnk.to/4MBZHCL The suppressor will push it a hair over 8lbs, but that's close enough.  With the bipod as pictured it just under 9lbs.  The bipod is not going to be on there permanently.  If I have to choose between a suppressor and a bipod for weight reasons, Jumbo Shrimp it is  https://alnk.to/880ol8Y

Eventually, I will likely switch to a lighter LPVO on this gun since I prefer the March on a hunting rifle, but in the meantime, configuration-wise, it is a near perfect SPR.

The nice thing about all these AR variants is how easy they are to accessorize, but all those extra gadgets do add weight.  For example, if I throw Steiner's excellent C35 v2 clip-on on there, it is another pound. https://alnk.to/8iV9jU9

An offset red dot sight will not add much weight, but it still adds a little.  Same goes for the light/laser (I think I have an extra CMR-301 https://alnk.to/880olc5 somewhere here that I can use.  It is not super fancy, but it works).

Before it is all said and done, if I keep everything on there, I will end up with am 11.5 to 12 lbs gun.  It sounds like a lot and it is.  However, if I did not start with a sub-6lbs gun before everything that I plan to latch onto it, we'd be talking about a 15lbs setup.  That's why I want a truly accurate sub-6lbs AR-15 and that is why I am always on this "holy grail" barrel search.

Stay tuned for the updates as I test this thing.

 

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