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If I could have only one... Rifle Package
Wrapping up with 2023
December 11, 2023

End of the year means that I start massaging my "only one" mental exercise from a vaiety of different angles and see if the answer changes.  In many ways, that's a good way to test the robustness of your conclusions: approach the problem from several different sides and see if you come up with something different every time or converge on a common solution.

This one, of course, really depends on how I set up the boundary conditions.  For example, if we imagine a situation where the government goes nuts on us and all semi-auto rifles have been outlawed (kinda like the situation our esteemed turnip-in-chief Mr Biden keeps on theorizing), my perennial favourite, a 6.5Grendel AR-15, is not an option.  For the time being, let's assume I can have my ARs.

'l'll theorize a different situation where the government is planning to institute a limit on how many firearms you can have.  That makes it slightly less restrictive and makes me really think about the things I do with guns: I enjoy shooting long range, hunting, plinking, tactical-ish drills, etc.  Not really much of a shotgunner, so to me a shotgun is just a powerful close range rifle.  It does make you consider carefully what you are looking to get out of every firearm.

Every year, I wonder if I should make an effort to stick to just one gun for at least six months.  I bet, I'd be a much better shot at the end of those six months.  Unfortunately, I like messing with different gear a little too much.

If I were forced to have only one gun, it would still be a 6.5Grendel AR-15.  I can do almost anything I want with it in a pinch.  For some hunting, I would have to really be cognizant of keeping disstances moderate, of course, but it is as close as I am going to get to a "do all" rifle.  6ARC and 6.8SPC can do a lot of the same as well, but I still think that Grendel is the better balance of across the boad performance.  Last year, I theorized that a modern "small large frame" AR chambered for 8.6Blackout could supplant the Grendel and I still think it might.   However, a lot there depends on how the whole pistol brace situation works out in the end.  At the moment, it looks like it is leaning our way, but who knows.  I do not want to SBR anything, so if pistol braces remain legal, I will put together an 8.6Blackout semiauto with a 12" barrel to test that concept.  I have a couple of 8.6 suppressors on backorder, so hopefully one of them will make it here as well.  A 12" barrel with a suppressor makes for a pretty handy package.  Since 8.6 does well in both subsonic and supersonic guises, it might be a true home defense to hunting to plinking rifle.  Not sure how good of a precision rifle it would make, but maybe I'll get luck with that as well.  In terms of long range accuracy with supersonics, 8.6 is less flat than 6.5Grendel, but I am willing to give that up because it does offer more pop for hunting within 400-500 yards and because I like the subsonic capability.  If pistol braces go the way of the dodo, I might pin and weld a suppressor on to the barrel make it a one stamp gun.

The tradeoff between semi-auto 6.5Grendel and 8.6 Blackout is interesting at its core.  If subsonic shooting is important, the Blackout is clearly the way to go.  If hunting is the most important thing, 8.6 also has an edge.  Aside from a faster twist, 8.6 launches a 200gr bullet at 2100fps.  6.5Grendel launches a 123gr bullete at 2500fps.  Grendel is definitely a better plinking round and long range round.  I have hunted with the Grendel and it has done well for me.  In practical terms, it has over 1000ft-lbs of energy within 325 yads which is plenty for my purposes.  My choisen 8.6Blackout load stays above 1000ft-lbs within 625 yards, so it is definitely a more powerful round.

Still, until I build and test such an 8.6 rifle, I am sticking with the Grendel.  As I get older and get more involved with hunting I find myself leaning ever more strongly toward guns that are lightweight, easy to move around and do not beat me up too much.  I have a couple of 6.5Grendel ARs, but neither of them folds down.  They are pleasant to shoot, accurate and reliable.  If I were starting this from scratch, I'd be gettins one from FoldAR.  I have a FoldAR 5.56 and in terms of packaging it up for transportation, it is a markedly easier thing to do.  It also ends up pretty incospicuous.

The optic for it would probably have to be the new March 1.5-15x42 https://bit.ly/4acN2at because I need lower magnification for use with thermals (I like pig hunting).  I'll confirm that when March with the updated reticle gets here next week.  My perenial favourite, Tangent Theta TT315M https://bit.ly/41dz6c8 works with clip-ons in a pinch on 3x, but it is not ideal.  It is also notably longer than the March.  Tangent is better optically, especially on higher power.  The way my mind seems to work, I lean toward shorter scopes on semi-autos.  For a boltgun, Tangent is absolutely my choice.   For a semi-auto, for a while I ran a Tangent with an offset RDS on my 6.5Grendel.  There is very little that could not be done with that gun.  With offset red dots, the options are innumerable.  Ultimately, I would be leaning toward a compact enclosed model.  There are a few out there and more are about to come out.  Aimpoint ACRO is probably the best known option.  Upcoming Shield AMS might be the most compact.  Holosun makes a few similar variants.  I think I'll just go with Shield SIS that I already have and that I have used with the Tangent in the past.  Do note that I have not yet laid eyes on Trijicon's new RCR.  On a high end build, ACRO would not be out of place, overpriced and all. https://bit.ly/46Sxbej

Personally, I somewhat lean toward red dot sights that have some sort of an autoadjust mode, which is really th eonly reason I do not own an ACRO.  It is a personal choice of course. 

One of the more interesting questions to consider will be whether March's performance on 1.5x is good enough to not necessitate an RDS.  I messed with it a little when I had it and thought the performance was encouraging.  I'll revisit it.  I'd still have some sort of an auxiliary sightign system on there regardless, but it might be irons if 1.5x performance is good with the new reticle.

Now that I think of it, going with FoldAR is really a money saving choice.  If I build from scratch the way I want it (Proof Barrel, Q trigger, etc), it will end up a more expensive gun.  I have one similar build and when I add up all the components, it is around $3k, plus scope, plus RDS, plus thermal clip-on, plus suppressor.  The whole package is over $10k.  Even with FoldAR, I would probably just get the upper: https://foldar.com/product/foldar-mobetta-complete-upper/  With the lower, I'd set it up my way.

Are there less expensive scope options?  Yes, certainly, although that depends on what you want to do.   With any of these, I really like to have a backup sighting system of some sort.  Something like SwampFox Kraken, for example, would work https://bit.ly/3GnZmqs

If you are not terribly pre-occupied with low light (i.e. if you have a thermal scope or clip-on) a modern LPVO is pretty damn close to a "do all" optic.  I'd lean toward one of the options that has side focus.  That's either March 1-10x24 https://bit.ly/486i95y or Delta Stryker 1-10x28.  Since we are getting into the somewhat more affordable possibilities, Delta for $1700 is extremely compelling https://annexdefense.com/delta-stryker-hd-1-10x28-rifle-scope-do-2517-1-10/ 

Delta 3.5-21x44 is one of the better options if you do not need 1x.  This one is right around $1600.  https://annexdefense.com/delta-stryker-hd-3-5-21x44-rifle-scope/

These two Delta scopes are really carving a niche for themselves in the $1500 range.  Tract's Toric 4-25x50 is similar money, but at almost 40 ounces, I think it is intended for different applications.  With crossovers use, for the time being, I think the Deltas ahve it.

Vortex PST Gen2 3-15x44 does a little bit of everything for a lot less money.  https://bit.ly/489K8kZ Same for Tract Toric 2.5-15x44.  PST Gen2 has wider apparent FOV, so it has almost he same real FOV on 3x, as Tract has on 2.5x. 

The two above are right under $1k.  Going much further down than that gets pretty iffy, because compromizes keep piling up.  I am going to have to go out on a limb and assume that if you are shopping for a day scope well under $1k, thermals are probably not in your budget.  In that case, we can look at some fixed power scopes and see if losing variable magnification is a viable compromise.

If you want to stay with a variable scope, Athlon Helos BTR Gen2 2-12x42 is about the right size and seems to be a well built scope.  The reticle is not hugely conducive to long range, but it works.  It works nicely with clip-ons though.

If you want to go with fixed power, Element Immersive 5x30 prismatics give you pretty high end image quality for less money.  The compromize is that you a can have any magnification you want as long as it is 5x.  Now that I have had that scope for a while, I have to admit that I can stretch it to longer distances than I anticipated.  800 yards plates are perfectly viable in good light.  600 yards is pretty comfortable most of the time.  That means I can probably aim at a deer out to 300 yards or so.  That sorta makes sense since I shot an elk at a hair over 300 yards a couple of years ago.  The scope was a 1.5-8x32.  That same shot would have been perfectly comfortable with a fixed 5x. 

Perhaps, a good way to approach this is to think whether all of the optics I mention would work well with an AR-15 in 6.5Grendel.  It so happens I have tried that exact setup with good success.  How about with a bolt gun in 8.6 Blackout?  The answer is, again, yes.  How about my hypothertical 8.6Blackout semi-auto with a 12" barrel?  Probably, except with longer scopes, you might not have much room to add a clip-on.  

One question that comes up year after year is why I am loathe to consider large frame ARs chambered for 308Win or something similar.  I have made a few experiments and decided that if I get the gun light enough, recoil control gets iffy and the gun fights me too much.  8.6Blackout is a pretty mild cartridge, so I am going to experiment with it and see if my general concerns with large frame ARs can be alleviated.

As I was deliberating through all of this, I decided to set up a different scenario.  This one deviates a bit from the "only one" idea somewhat, but it is still a useful exercise.

Let's say, the Democrats manage to push through a law that limits how many guns you can have.  Somehow.  Let's say you can have a grand total of four firearms.  How would your choices be then?  That will be in the next installment of this thought exercise.  Give it a little thought until then.

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I got an interesting question via Youtube after the last livestream.  Here is it is verbatim:

"Ilya I hope you read the comments. I’ve got an optics question that I can’t seem to find an answer to. 
In reference to competition style scopes. Ones that seem geared towards PRS or other similar styles of shooting. Is there some good reason that the manufacturers constantly put out stuff with a low end mag that is basically unusable? Weight? Clarity? Something else?
I’m thinking of things like the K540i, Vortex 6-36, Tangent, Zco. I’ve never seen anyone shoot these scopes below 10x and most of their reticles are completely unreadable at low magnification. Why not start the low end at something like 10x or 12x and use a similar or lower zoom ratio? A 10-30 seems much more useful in PRS compared to a 5-25 since it’s my understanding that a lower zoom ratio is easier to make."

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For example, if you want it to appeal to some potential military contracts, you need some sort of a viable low magnification to use with clip-ons.  Many of the clip-ons available to the military work pretty well on higher magnifications, but they generally want to have low pwoer in the 4x to 7x range.

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However, the simple truth is that reticle illumination pretty much solves that problem nicely since most low power use is in low or fading light.

The extended range features of a reticle (christmas tree, etc) seldom come into play in low light, so if the reticle simply has something like an illuminated cross, it works very well.

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Moving on.... a few years ago when I was chatting with a guy who designs riflescopes for a living, I asked him that the ideal magnification ratio is, where you have a good enough magnification range without any really significant optical compromises.  He said that it is right around 5x, i.e. 5-25x, 7-35x, etc.  When riflescope optical systems are designed, they are not all ground up designs.  For example, you can take a well worked out erector system and use it in a range of scopes.  LPVOs are a little different, but you can use more or less the same erector and eyepiece for several different designs: 2-12x, 3-18x, 4-24x, 5-30x can have very significant part commonality.  Noone is itching to design a standalone 3x erector just for the highest magnification scope because it just adds extra cost and might not offer any advantages beyond potentially slightly lighter scope and somewhat easier assembly/alignment.  

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Reference Standard, 2025
Quite a few changes

 

As a reminder, the plan is to choose scopes as my reference standards in a few categories and make sure I keep them on hand for at least a year or so.  If they move on somewhere, I have to designate something else as the reference standard in that category.  There might be a couple of reference standard designs in each category to split them by price range.

Here is the riflescope categorization that I like to use https://darklordofoptics.locals.com/post/5212669/riflescope-type-classification 

Do keep in mind, that some categories I am not as well versed in as I'd like to be.  Also, there might be scopes in each category I consider exceptional, but do not have on hand.  Reference standard has to be something I have here and will use as a basis for comparisons.  I will endeavor to use optics that I believe to be at the top of their category, but it is not always possible.  Natirually, these will lean heavily toward mrad designs.  I avoid MOA like the plague whenever possible.

 

Fixed 1x
Interestingly, I do not actually have any 1x prismatics at the moment.  However, a friend of mine inherited the PA GLx 1x and my brother has Primary Arms SLx 1x Microprism.  https://bit.ly/3uLqu0E I Most of the differences between modern 1x prismatics come down to reticles and eyebox.  On balance, GLx is probably the yardstick for the rest of them.

 

Fixed mag small prism
No changes here.  This can go in a variety of different directions depending on personal preferences and price.  It is not practical to have a reference standard for every magnification and with compact prismatics I do like 3x as a good compromise magnification.  These scopes are a step up from people who have been using red dots with magnifiers and want a better experience at distance.  This one will also go to Primary Arms.  Technically, I like GLx 2x more than SLx 3x, but 2x is such a unique magnification that it is not a very good yard stick for comparisons.  SLX 3x Microprism it is, then.  

 

Fixed mag large prism

Somewhat oddly, with large prism scopes, I start leaning toward higher magnifications.  I want these in 4x or 5x.  I view these differently.  These are, to me, alternatives to LPVOs and spiritual successors of old general purpose 4x and 6x fixed power scopes, except more compact and with wider FOV.  There a couple of good options and, unsurprisingly, my favourites are Element Immersive 5x30  and the discontinued Elcan Spectre OS 4x.  The dual power Spectre DR is still thriving, as expensive as it is.    I have the single magnification 4x and it is a very good yardstick for what a high end prismatic should be.  With the Element, I am clearly biased since I designed the reticle for it.  In other words, I got to put a reticle I could not get other people to make into a scope I like.  You should not be terribly surprised to see it here.

 

LPVO

This one gets tough and there will be several options here.  Keep in mind that I like FFP LPVOs once we get up in price.  One of the reasons it gets tough is that as I keep putting together ARs for various family members, different LPVOs I have tend to migrate elsewhere.

With budget LPVOs, for now, I think Primary Arms SLx 1-6x24 with Nova reticle is the one to beat, but I no longer hae one here.  I should probably get another one and keep it here for comparison purposes.

On the mid-range, it is a battle between SAI6 1-6x24 with mrad reticle and the new PA PLxC 1-8x24 with day bright reticle illumination.  With PA, the reticle got a bit better sicne they went to diffractive illumination, but I would prefer a short mil tree of some sort.  It is light and short with an excellent eyepiece.  With SAI6, I like the whole reticle line-up but lean toward the mrad designs for general purpose use.  The X-Wing style high visbility feature is not for everyone, but it works for me.  I suppose I will keep both here.  

If you go up in price, my basic opinion has not changed.  Vortex Razor Gen3 1-10x24 is the one to beat if you want a nuclear bright reticle.  However, the notably less expensive PA PLxC with RDB reticle is absolutely giving it a run for its money.  The mrad reticle in the Vortex is more my cup of tea, though.

This leaves a little of a "no-man's land" with LPVOs that are designed to be true general purpose designs, like the side focus equipped March Shorty 1-10x24 and Delta Stryker 1-10x28.  They are a little too different to serve as a useful yardstick for anything but each other.  I ended up keeping the Delta.  Side focus really helps behind clip-ons.

 

Dangerous Game

I may have to skip one because I do not really have anything on hand right now (rifle-wise) that fits the description.  If I were to buy one, let's say a traditional 375H&H or 416Rigby, it would get Primary Arms' PLxC 1-8x24 SFP with fiber reticle.  In case it has not come through too well, I really like the PLxC line-up.

 

MPVO

For the time being, the one to rule them all is the dual focal plane March 1.5-15x42 https://bit.ly/4bjm15X  This category, almost by definition, is the one where compromises are made for the most flexibility.  This March is not perfect, but it is the best we currently have.  On the budget end, the yardstick should be Athlon's excellent Helos BTR Gen2 2-12x42, but it is sitting on top of a friend of mine's rifle two states to the West.  It can't be a reference standard if it is not here.  In the meantime, the old reliable SWFA SS 3-9x42 will do.  I have a couple of them.  https://swfa.com/swfa-3-9x42-ss-hd-mil-quad-reticle-30mm-tube-1-mil-clicks-ffp/

There is a big gap between a $600 SWFA and a $3100 March.  In the mid-range, Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42 with STR-Mil reticle is easily my favourite.  If I were going to have only one MPVO and I was payign for it out of my own pocket, Steiner would probably be it, so it is staying here.

 

Tweener

I do not like to use a discontinued scope as a yardstick, but Razor HD LH 1.5-8x32 has got to be it.  It is not a common scope category, so we will hoble along like this until I come up with something still manufactured (that fits the profile and I like).  On the low-ish end of the price range,  I do like SWFA 2.5-10x32 Ultralight and have a couple of them.  https://swfa.com/swfa-2-5-10x32-ss-ultralight-msr-556-bdc-reticle-1-tube-25-moa-clicks/ 

GPO makes a 1.5-9x32, but I do not have one.

 

Crossover

For once, this one is easy and I'll keep it all within a sane-ish price range.  Vortex Razor HD-LHT 4.5-22x50 and Delta Stryker 3.5-21x44 https://annexdefense.com/delta-stryker-hd-3-5-21x44-rifle-scope/ are the purest expressions of the crossover idea I have seen to date, this side of Tangent TT315M that you will see a couple of categories down.

 

Traditional Hunting

This get difficult again because it is not a type of a scope that is common around these parts and the ones I look at do not stick around too long.  I simply happen to be an FFP guy.  However, some hunting scope articles are very much overdue and I do have an excellent Delta Titanium 1.5-9x45.  In sticking with sane prices, let's add Tract Toric 2.5-15x44 with illuminated reticle to this list. 

These two should give me a decent ability to compare.  On the high end, there is the rather remarkable Tangent Theta Long Range Hunter that is the one to beat which is why it is not going anywhere.

 

General Purpose Practical Precision

Given how much this crosses over with, pun intended, crossover designs above, I could have merged them into signle category.  It would make too much sense so here we are.  Tangent Theta TT315M 3-15x50 is still it to me.  It does have limited elevation travel, so you have to be somewhat careful with how you mount it (in extreme cases, Burris XTR Signature rings where you can use their inserts to adjust slope may be needed).   Still, I have found nothing better yet.

If you want something more reasonably priced, I am going to go with the Telson Toxin 3-18x50 which repalces the very nice Burris XTR3i 3.3-18x50.  Both are very solid scopes, but Telson reticle has better visibility and it controls flare a little better.

 

Long Range Practical Precision

I might catch a lot of flack for this one, but so be it.  

High end: There are several spectacularly capable options, but there is a reason I shoot with the different Tangent Thetas, 5-25x56 and 7-35x56

Best bang for the buck on the high end: Vortex Razor Gen3 6-36x56 https://alnk.to/74xn2BV

Mid-range: Delta Stryker 4.5-30x56 (there is a bunch of simlar scopes in this category and I happen to have this one) and Burris XTR PS 5.5-30x56.  I think the heads up display in the XTR PS is a meangful innovation and is the way of the future.

Budget long range: Meopta Optika6 5-30x56 is a pretty decent scope and the one I have(again, there are several to choose from that are similar, but this one is on hand).  Unfortunately it is discontinued.

DNT The One 7-35x56 is easily one of the better budget options and it is here for now.  I am not sure if I will use the DNT as the reference standard since I have a couple of other heading this way that might occupy this role.  I'll know soon.

 

Short Range Target:

I'll have to skip this one for now since I do not do anything along these lines.  The closest I get is my rimfire trainer and I use Vortex Razor Gen3 on that rifle with good success.

 

Long Range Target:

Ditto.  It is not a category I look at much, so I do not have anything on hand that will fit.  I will rectify that.  Until then, the best paper shooting scope I have and intend to keep is March 5-42x56.  It bridges several categories nicely since it is FFP, but it pulls target shooting duty for me.  If I decide to do a comparison review on target scopes, this March will serve as the reference standard.  https://bit.ly/3TdABox

Field Target:

I do not have a Field Target setup, so this category is going to be skipped for now.  Hopefuly, not for too long.  If I were to start shooting Field Target, I'd be using the 5-42x56 March mentioned above.

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