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What's the application?

This is a subject I cover with reasonable regularity, but it has been a while, so it is worth bringing up for a minute again.
During a discussion elsewhere, someone asked where he should go for a Athlon Ares ETR 1-10x24 (https://bit.ly/3p1uOSU) or Vortex PST Gen2 2-10x32.
It is my favourite kind of question because there essentially not information given on what it would be used for, on what gun, etc.
Now, apparently, there was an earlier discussion that I missed that specified what the gun was and what it was going to be used for. Still, I did not know that at the time, which created a perfect opportunity to be an arrogant sanctimonious prick for a few minutes whether justified or not.
In the end, I ended up recommending Vortex PST Gen II 3-15x42.
How did we get get from here to there? That is really the important question. What specifically I recommend is perhaps less critical, but how we arrive at an appropriate selection is more interesting.
First of all, while what gun this optic is going on matters, it is more important what the targets are, how far away they will be and what lighting conditions you will be facing.
An LPVO (like the 1-10x24 mentioned above) is usually a good option when you are not exactly sure what you might be facing. Now, it is often a good option when you need to engage man-size targets from up close and personal on out to 500- 800 yards. Sometimes further, but LPVOs are essentially about flexibility. Now, the Ares ETR happens to be a very nice scope, but it is not ideal on 1x due to illumination not being ideal for that. It is also not light, but it is currently the highest quality LPVO made in China. Ultimately, Ares ETR scopes are more expensive and higher quality than Vortex PST Gen2 scopes.
However, the question was about the 2-10x32 PST Gen2 and it is really not an apples to apples comparison because the objective lens diameters are different and because one goes down to 1x. Both make a difference.

The way the question was asked was, unintentionally I am sure, virtually designed to set me off: "trying to decide between two scopes. Very comparable, but one is a 34mm body with 24mm obj. The other is a 30mm body with 32mm objective. What will be the performance differences between the two scopes? Would a mediocre shooter like me notice the differences anyway?"

First of all, let's do away with the mediocre shooter part: that provides no useful information since mediocre means different things to different people. Either way, it makes no difference whatsoever on scope selection. With gun people, most of the time when people say they are mediocre shooters it is one of two things:
-false modesty where everyone knows they are pretty good, so this is sort of a cute way of saying "I know I am good, but it would be impolite to point it out"
-they hang out with pretty exalted company. For example, I always say that I am not a very good shot. Compared to an average gun owner, that is not really true. However, I likely have unreasonably high standards. While I do not exactly hang out with him, I have a fairy cordial relationship with David Tubb. Almost everyone is a piss poor shot compared to David. I am friendly with guys like Frank Galli, Phil Velayo, Caylen Wojcik and a few others. That's my yardstick and compared to them, I suck. However, without knowing that background, if I tell you that I am not a good shot, you will get a very wrong impression.

Then, there is the maintube diameter business: it is always worth repeating that the diameter of the scope is a consequence of what the scope designer was looking to do inside the scope. Sometimes you need the extra real estate. Sometimes you do not. As a consumer, you have not way of knowing which it is and it does not matter.

Tube diameter, by itself, SHOULD NOT BE A FACTOR IN CHOOSING A RIFLESCOPE. Unless, of course, you are compensating, then more power to you. I am sure IOR is planning a 50mm scope tube just for you.

Objective diameter, on the other hand, is a big deal. When I do scopes comparisons, I sort scopes primarily by objective diameter and only then by magnification and other characteristics.

How much light gets into a scope is proportional to the area of the objective lens. Assuming there is not addition exit pupil constriction, at the same magnification a 32mm objective scope has approximately 78% more light to work with than a 24mm one.

The flip side of the coin is that is you really need 1x, it is hard to do larger objectives, so you end up compromising.

What did I end up recommending? PST Gen II 3-15x44. While looking up prices to make sure I am not talking out of my ass, I also noticed that Europtic has the earlier EBR-2C reticle version of the 3-15x44 for under $600. At that price, it is an absolute steal: https://bit.ly/3k6wpWc

It turned out that the scope was going on an accurate AR intended for shooting at coyotes and varmints out to 300 yards, i.e. small targets that will occasionally be engaged in low light. For that, you need magnification and objective diameter. Now, I am not a magnification hog, so many of my scopes top out between 12x and 20x. However, even on 10x, it is much easier to use a scope with a 44mm objective than a 24mm objective. Exit pupil size makes all the difference in the world the moment the light levels get low.

For this application, having a scope go down to 1x offers no meaningful advantage unless the varmints you are after band into an army and mount an offensive campaign on your shooting position.

Is the Athlon Ares ETR 1-10x24 a nice scope? Yes. Is it a good scope for this application? No. Ares ETR 3-18x50 (https://bit.ly/3P4yzBO) would be quite appropriate, however, as would the new Element Titan 3-18x50 (https://bit.ly/3bBFfJP)

PST Gen2 2-10x32 is a decent enough scope, but it is heavy for its size
https://bit.ly/3vNSE8t

On top of that, within each scope line, not all scope are created equal and it so happens that with PST Gen2, the 3-15x44 is, I think, the best of that product line. It is notably larger than the 2-10x32, but it is better optically. They are obviously very similar in terms of mechanical quality, but here is the kicker: the weight is within two ounces.

Between the two, the only reason to go with the 2-10x32 would be if you want the scope to be shorter and/or if you really need 2x on the low end. That essentially means that if you plan to put a thermal clip-on, then 2-10x32 has some advantages. Barring that, the 3-15x44 is a no brainer https://bit.ly/3vKJpG6

Now, that gets us into the $1k range, so the next logical question is whether there is something less expensive I recommend that has a reasonable objective diameter, tops out at 10x or more and performs well.

There is and that comes out of the MPVO test I did recently: PA GLx 2.5-10x44 (https://bit.ly/3Q9zq5i) and Athlon Helos BTR Gen2 2-12x42 (https://bit.ly/3vNgH7s). If you can swing the more expensive stuff, it is worth it. If not, these do very well too.

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Blast From The Past: Millett ZoomDot RDS

I dug this thing up purely by accident. It has been a long time since I used it for anything, but I am thinking I should, especially as I work on a magnifier video.

MIllet's ZoomDot was a unique red dot sight that had auto brightness and variable dot size from 1MOA to 10MOA.

Early ones, like mine, were made in the US. Millett had some aspirations of selling these to the US military.

I do not think they got very far, then the company was bought by Bushnell and essentially shut down after a little bit. At some point, the manufacturing for the ZoomDot moved to China and it was not really the same.

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Scout Scopes: Burris 2.75x20

Scout scopes are almost like a forgotten art form these days. There is an occasional discussion either on how they are the greatest thing since sliced bread because 1) THE colonel said so 2) if you do not think they are, refer to rule number 1.
Alternatively, the prevailing thought is that they are completely useless and if LPVOs existed in Jeff Cooper's time, there would never be such a thing as scout scopes.
The truth, as is usually the case, resides somewhere in the middle.
Scout scopes do have their place, but they are definitely a niche product. It is, however, an interesting niche.
Scout scope pickings are relatively slim in terms of what's on offer.
Leupold makes a 1.5-4x28 https://alnk.to/gKSibYj
Burris makes a 2-7x32 and 2.75x20
Vortex has a 2-7x32 in the Crossfire line
There are also a few out there from UTG, Aimsports, etc.

I strongly lean toward compact fixed power designs, so Burris 2.75x20 https://alnk.to/cSJCBQx is probably my favourite and is the subject of this ...

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Integrix M1 MRAD Reticle in the 3-18x44

Wind was really making things difficult, but at least this gives you a look at the reticle.
It is a respectable design that is conceptually closer to SKMR reticles than to the ones I usually gravitate to. They also have an M2 that is, I think, a little better.
In the grand scheme of things, the M1 did not take me long to get used to and it is not giving me any real issues.
https://alnk.to/9TaI2kH

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Integrix 3-18x44 Tracking Follow-up

I reached out to Leapers to relay the issues I found with reticle sizing and tracking in the 3-18x44 scope they sent me.

They confirmed that the scope I have here is an engineering model. They also talked to engineering and, apparently, they found the same issues I did with the mrad model and fixed them for the production run.

The MOA model (https://alnk.to/eZIJo9a) is, according to them, spot on. The issues were only present in pre-production mrad scopes.

Once they get production scopes going, I plan to re-visit them. I think the first one to become available will be the 4.5-27x model with the M2 Mrad reticle. I saw it during SHOT and I think it will be more up my alley than the M1, though the latter is still serviceable.

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Memorial Day Sales

I am beginning to see some early Memorial Day Sale emails in my inbox.
If I see anything interesting, I'll add it to this post which will be pinned to the top, rather than inundate you with incessant "it's a sale!" emails. Better keep it all in one spot.

The first one I see is from Opticsplanet. https://alnk.to/cwU58u8
They have all sorts of stuff rom Burris and Steiner discounted including the recently introduced Burris XTR PS 5.5-30x56 for $2199 https://alnk.to/d3Em4Su and the rather unusual Steiner T6Xi 3-18x56 https://alnk.to/ge7ZJBN
Eliminator 6 gets you $400 of bonus bucks to use on something else. https://alnk.to/flycPy8

Tract Optics will be running a 10% storewide sale starting Thursday with the discount code "REMEMBRANCE". While I generally like their products, the one that is really agreeing with me the most is the new 2.5-15x44 with MRAD Eagleman reticle. https://tractoptics.com/toric-uhd-30mm-2-5-15x44-ffp-illuminated-mrad-eagleman-long-range-hunting-rifle-scope/
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First PRS Match is behind me
High Noon at Del Norte

My first PRS match is officially behind me.  It was, I think an officially sanctioned regional PRS match at the shooting range called Del Norte about an hour from me (just east of Rio Rancho).
As I discussed previously, rather than using the rifle I originally prepared for it, I ended up having to change gears at the last moment and slapping a 5-25x56 Tangent on my daughter's 6ARC MiniFIx.  A lightweight 16" Proof barreled 6ARC is not an ideal set up for PRS competition, but, in the grand scheme of things, the rifle did hot hold me back at all.  I had a couple of weights that fit the Q-cert handguard, so I slapped them on there as well, which got the rifle to right around 12lbs.  The balance point was almost where I want it, but not quite.  In all other ways, this was a very handy rifle to shoot.  I am actually thinking of getting a couple more weights that I can stack on it (Sawtooth weights are stackable), so that I can shoot some future local matches with it.  It shoots Hornady's Black 105gr ammo very well (it also shoots 108gr ELD-M and 103gr ELD-X well, but I had a larger supply of Hornady Black ammo on hand).

It chrono'ed pretty consistently for factory ammo.  Here are the measurements for a 20 shot group.

If I were to take out the fastest shot, SD drops down to 8fps.  

In terms of wind performance, it is a 5mph rifle, so slightly better than the 308 ammo I was going to use originally, but not as good as the 6.5CM that was my intended match rifle for this year (we make plans, but then life happens).

I do have to admit that I really enjoyed shooting the match with the MiniFix.  So much so, that I am seriously thinking of building another one for myself, since this rifle is technically my daughter's.

The closest shot we had was a bit over a couple of hundred yards.  The furthest was around 1150.  That was a bit challenging for the 16" barreled 6ARC, especially since the terrain there is tricky and wind is doing strange things.  Morning was relatively quiet wind-wise, but then the wind becamse gusty with changing directions.

It was a one day match with about 30 shooters (six squads) and ten stages.  The 17 year old kid who won the match was in my squad with his dad.  Apparently he is on the US team, so it should not be surrpising that he won.  He was very good.

Overall level of the shooters in the match was quite good.  I really was not sure what to expect.  Somewhat paradoxically, the only matches that I have shot in so far are the much larger two day NRL Hunter matches.  In those, I am just out of the bottom third in terms of skill level.  In this match, it was pretty much in the same spot, I think.  

The terrain was a little bit like Cameo, I think (I have been there, but not shot there), with some angle changes and sufficient vegetation to make getting on target occasionally troublesome. 

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Getting back on the horse, little by little

My original plan was to do a livestream on Thursday of this week, but I think I'll push it out to next week.  A few days at home is doing wonders for my recovery, but my voice is still not quite there.  I do not think any of you are looking to listen to me cough for two hours straight.

Also, I am going to try to shoot that local PRS match this coming Saturday, so doign a livestream next week after the match is likely to be more productive.  It is my first one, so I fully expect that I will screw it all up.  It should be a good learning experience.  I do not have a dedicated PRS rifle and I am not looking to set one up jsut yet.  If I like it, I'll put something together, but as far as competition goes, my focus is really on UKD matches like NRL Hunter, Competition Dynamics, etc.  My 6.5CM is not back yet, so I'll just shoot it with my 308 FIx.  It is not ideal, but it will do just fine for my purposes.  I am in no danger of winning anything either way and this will stress my ability to read wind.  A secondary purpse here is that I am not 100% certain what rifle I will take on a mule deer hunt with later this year, but it will be either something new to test or this 308.  Now that I think about it, the 308 is going with me regardless either as a primary rifle or as backup.  The rifle shoots, so if I miss, I know it is on me.

For the match, I have Burris XTR PS 5.5-30x56 scope on the 308 Fix.  I think the way they did the heads up display in these is a meaningful improvement over conventional riflescopes.

https://alnk.to/d3EjPHC or https://alnk.to/8iVRlGN

Optically, I think XTR Pro is a little better, but the EO integration in the XTR PS is, I think, in advantage.

In parallel, I am looking at the replacement AAC ammo (they replaced the faulty ammo and I have chrono results on it) and testing the optics of the 40mm scopes in parallel.

 

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A first look at Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42
MPVOs are finally getting some attention

Here are some initial thoughts on the Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42.

I finally had a chance to shoot with it both supported and unsupported, which is an important part of figuring out how usable an optic is.

I found what looks to be more accurate specifications in the manual that came with the H6Xi, so the spec table is now updated:

To re-iterate from an earlier post, Eurooptic is selling the H6Xi 2-12x42 for $1350 and at that price, it is easily the best deal going in this category: https://alnk.to/90ALO3C

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