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Prismatic Discussion with Everyday Marksman

Matt has posted the audio only version of last week's discussion of prismatic scopes and a brief written summary https://www.everydaymarksman.co/podcast/prism-primer/

There are a couple of things there that I thought I should clarify and add some specificity, because I have not tested all prismatics out there.

One is the statement that under $1k I would take one of the modern prismatics over any LPVO. That is generally true, although I do make an exception for the Delta Stryker 1-6x24. It is well built and has a nuclear bright fiber dot for an aiming point. I also happen to like Steiner P4Xi 1-4x24 for the same reasons. The Tract 1-8x24 is growing on me, but it is over $1k.

In general, however, with LPVOs, I very strongly prefer FFP models. I tend to need drop and wind holds quite frequently and I often shoot on intermediate magnifications. The least expensive currently available FFP LPVO that I recommend is probably SAI 1-6x24 https://bit.ly/3mOjBoE (by the way, the introduced a 7.62 BDC reticle option). There are less expensive FFP LPVOs out there, but the ones I have seen did not impress me enough to recommend them. Perhaps, there is something out there I have not seen that are good enough, but I can't speak to that. Obviously.

Another important thing to emphasize is that we are talking about general tactical use on semi-auto platforms like ARs and AKs. If, for example, we are talking about hunting use behind clip-ons there is a lot to be said about good quality SFP LPVOs. Quite a few clip-ons out there are designed to attach to the objective of conventional scopes. That's how I use Steiner P4Xi 1-4x24 and Tract Toric 1-8x24, for example.

If a thermal clip-on has a picatinny mount, it can usually be lined up in front of a compact prismatic and 2x/3x prismatics do work well with most commercial clip-ons. For example, Burris' RT-3 works very nicely with Burris' BTC-50 thermal clip-on (https://bit.ly/3E1bb2w). Now, that I have been spending some time with different clip-ons, however, I find that with QVGA clip-ons (the ones with 384x288 or similar resolution), I am perfectly happy using them with 2x/3x prismatics. However, with higher resolution VGA clip-ons, while the full field of view is with the scope on ~2x, there is enough resolution to zoom in up to 4x/5x when I am ready to pull the trigger. That's one of the reasons I use an LPVO with Steiner's C35. Between the higher resolution core and very effective image processing, I have enough resolution to zoom in a little. Same goes for the iRay Micro RH25 when used as a clip-on, although with its wider FOV, there is also a benefit to dialing magnification down a little.

One of the things we really discussed with Matt was how much performance modern inexpensive prismatics offer if you are on a budget. Well, if you are on a budget, you might not be looking at thermals all that much. Even budget thermals, if you want something half way decent, are a lot of money.

Before I list the specific prismatics, it is also worth mentioning that with fixed power scopes, for rapid close range performance, you are relying on an offset or piggybacked red dot. If you have sever astigmatism, that might not work for you. In that case, LPVO is your best bet.

Going back to prismatics, the word "budget" is really key here. When we are talking about modern prismatics, we are talking about scopes in the $300 to $500 range. For that money, compared to similarly priced LPVOs, you are getting lighter weight, better image quality, wider FOV and, potentially, better durability. Compared to more expensive LPVOs, you are usually getting better FOV, lighter weight and lower price.

Here are the 2x and higher prismatics that have impressed me in the last couple of years:
PA GLx 2x for $369 https://bit.ly/3vWrUks
PA SLx Micro 3x for $320 https://bit.ly/3KuU7oL
Burris RT-3 3x for $379 https://bit.ly/3yrNUpF
SwampFox Trihawk 3x for $250 https://bit.ly/3uUhxvP
Vortex Spitfire Gen2 5x for $450 https://bit.ly/3ASliZJ
SwampFox Saber 5x for $390 https://www.swampfoxoptics.com/saber-prism-scope-5x36

SwampFox Trihawk and Saber are large prism scopes, so they are comparatively heavy at 17 and 25 ounces respectively. However, even the just released 25 ounce Saber is in the same weight range as an LPVO with mount for less money and with a much more immersive FOV.

The others are rather small and trim designs. I am particularly partial to the 2x GLx from Primary Arms.

To re-iterate, none of these are as good as my Elcan Spetre 4x, but they are a better bang for the buck.

If I was building a starter 5.56 AR for one of my nephews today, for example (their ARs have LPVOs on them), they probably would end up with PA's 3x SLx or SwampFox Trihawk on them and an offset red dot.

For starter AKs or 300Blackout ARs, it would probably be PA's GLx 2x with a red dot.

For a budget large frame AR, I might lean toward a little more magnification and go with one of the 5x options.

Equally critically, these recent advancements with prismatics are not over. There is more coming. I'll release information as soon as I am able to.

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Vortex Defender XL Green

This is the second time Vortex' Defender XL crosses my path. I was very impressed with the original red dot version, so I was curious to see how the one with the green dot works for my eyes.
To get the details, see the attached video.
The cliff's notes version is that I am just as impressed with this one. In terms of collimation quality and parallax control, it is quite exceptional.
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Primary Arms HTX-1 US Made red dot sight

I've had this RDS for a bit over two months now and I am beyond pleased with it.
Despite some spirited abuse, it keeps soldiering on.
https://alnk.to/1C9z5dw
It is a very nice RDS and being fully made in the US does not hurt either.

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Delta Stryker 3.5-21x44 Wrap-up

This scope comes up a lot since I really like the configuration. It is time to do a final wrap-up of it.

It is one of my favourite scopes on the market today, especially for the money, since I naturally lean toward general purpose-ish designs. Still, while the 3.5-21x44 Stryker is relatively compact and light, it still clearly leans toward the precision side of things, which suites me very well.

https://annexdefense.com/optics-and-optic-accessories/delta-optics/

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Labor Day is upon us...

As we head into Labor Day, we will all be bombarded with a huge number of emails indicating impending discounts of all sorts.
I am not even going to pretend that I have the bandwidth to go through it all, but if I see something worthwhile, I'll post it here. This will remained pinned to the top of the feed for a week or so.

The first nice deal that crossed my path here is steep discount on the original version of the FFP PLxC LPVO from Primary Arms. https://alnk.to/5Q7R6eK
Now that the new version with nuclear bright illumination came out, it looks they are closing out the original. It is a lot of LPVO for $1100 and the version with the Meters reticle is my favourite. You can easily make it work for imperial units.

Tract has the TORIC100 coupon code that gets you $100 off any Tract Toric optic. https://tractoptics.com/toric-uhd-30mm-2-5-15x44-ffp-illuminated-mrad-eagleman-long-range-hunting-rifle-scope?ref=ILYAKOSHKIN
The coupon codes are stackable, so if you also use my DLO discount code...

I was a bit confused at the beginning but this is a new Model looking at the turret compare to old LH2-10x40,
Any news on this ?
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Razor-Second-Riflescopes/dp/B0FBMNTW52?th=1

Updates, deals and new review items: PLxC RDB, Zeiss Tripod, etc

As the week is coming to an end, I find myself in an unusual place: home.

I plan to be home between now and September 1st when I have to go to Israel for ten days, returning on the 11th (dayjob stuff).

For the last couple of months, between family vacations, work and a couple of matches, it seems like I only spent enough time at home to check zero on my 6.5CM Fix and head out again (it has not shifted, thank you Area 419 mount).

I have a lot to do during the next two weeks, but I will try to take some pictures, film some footage and release it as I go along. I can edit videos on the plane or in Israel just about as well as I can at home.

While generally, I am very picky about what I accept for review (given my bandwidth limitations), I do have a few new things here worth talking about.

One is Primary Arms new PLxC RDB 1-8x24 LPVO. It is essentially a version of the original FFP PLxC LPVO except with different reticle illumination technology. The new model utilizes diffractive reticle illumination (same style ...

Well, that was a doozy...

My original plan was to try to set up a hunt where my daughter will have her first memorable hunting experience without working too hard.

The choice of the pronghorn hunt was largely based off of my experience in that same area last year.

The way it went last year was quite straightforward.  We drove around until we saw a large pronghorn buck.  It was a solitary animal that decided to lie down in an open area to relax.  We made a short stock, crawled the last hundred yards or so, found a good spot about 350 yards away from the pronghorn and made the shot.

https://darklordofoptics.locals.com/post/6034347/well-that-was-a-nice-morning

This year, when I decided to take my daugher on the same pronghorn hunt on the day of her 14th birthday, I figured it will be somewhere along those same lines.  It kinda was, but not quite.

Still, it worked out nicely.

In the pciture:

Q Mini-Fix with 6ARC 16" Proof Research carbon fiber barrel

Q Jumbo Shrimp supressor

Gunwerks Elevate 2.0 bipod

Telson Toxin 3-18x50 riflescope

Leica Geovid Pro AB+ LRF binoculars

Pint-sized sticky Gamechanger bag

Unnamed pronghorn buck.  It will likely get a name once it's skull is euro-ed and is hanging on the wall.

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Arming The Children
A couple of very specific children that is

In case you were wondering, no, I am not starting an underage militia.

I do have two kids though and I am teaching them to shoot.

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Steiner C35 Gen2 Mount
from Annex Defense

The production version of the Annex Defense's mount for the Steiner C35 Gen2 thermal Clip-on is finally here.  At $1600 (when this is published), the clip-on is an absolute steal.

I've had it for a few days, but, me being the good old paranoid me, I spent some time shooting with it before posting anything.  I had a couple of days with it prior to last weekend's match in Montana and a couple of days after.  Another to pop it on and off a few times and get a couple of hundred rounds of 6.5Grendel through the gun to see if anything shakes loose.  So far so good.

The C35 Gen2 clip-on is sitting on my 6.5Grendel AR as a part of a long running "Only One" project that I have.  It pairs perfectly with the Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42 scope.

Here is what comes in the box from Annex Defense:

The order in which the whole thing comes togethe is pretty stragihtforward:

-slide the thermal washer onto the threaded interface extending out of the back of the clip-on

-spin the mount itself onto the threaded interface (the mount is threaded on the inside) until it can go no further

-rotate the mount so that the clip-on is properly lined up to the picatinny clamp

-once you are happy with the alignment, use the three nylon tipped set screws (you'll need an allen wrench for that) to lock in the position of the clip-on in the mount.  You need very little torque on the set screws.  They are there for one reason and one reason only: to keep the mount from spinning when you tighten the timing nut in the next step

-spin the timing nut onto the threaded interface of the clip-on to lock the mount in place.  You should not need the timing nut wrench, but one is in there just in case.

Here are the pieces laid out in the order in which you will need them.

When you are done, it should look like this:

Note that the mount normaly comes with two T20 screws.  I am using two thumbscrews instead, since I am popping the mount on and off all the time.  It seems to be staying put with the thumbscrews just fine.  I am hoping Annex will offer the thumbscrews as an option.

It is not quite an equivalent of a QD mount, but we needed something with an extremely low profile clamp to fit under scopes with fairly large objectives.  As is, the mount works with most scope that have objective lens diameter of 50mm or less.

I am using with with Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42 and the two work together exceedingly well.

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