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Prismatic Discussion with Everyday Marksman

Matt has posted the audio only version of last week's discussion of prismatic scopes and a brief written summary https://www.everydaymarksman.co/podcast/prism-primer/

There are a couple of things there that I thought I should clarify and add some specificity, because I have not tested all prismatics out there.

One is the statement that under $1k I would take one of the modern prismatics over any LPVO. That is generally true, although I do make an exception for the Delta Stryker 1-6x24. It is well built and has a nuclear bright fiber dot for an aiming point. I also happen to like Steiner P4Xi 1-4x24 for the same reasons. The Tract 1-8x24 is growing on me, but it is over $1k.

In general, however, with LPVOs, I very strongly prefer FFP models. I tend to need drop and wind holds quite frequently and I often shoot on intermediate magnifications. The least expensive currently available FFP LPVO that I recommend is probably SAI 1-6x24 https://bit.ly/3mOjBoE (by the way, the introduced a 7.62 BDC reticle option). There are less expensive FFP LPVOs out there, but the ones I have seen did not impress me enough to recommend them. Perhaps, there is something out there I have not seen that are good enough, but I can't speak to that. Obviously.

Another important thing to emphasize is that we are talking about general tactical use on semi-auto platforms like ARs and AKs. If, for example, we are talking about hunting use behind clip-ons there is a lot to be said about good quality SFP LPVOs. Quite a few clip-ons out there are designed to attach to the objective of conventional scopes. That's how I use Steiner P4Xi 1-4x24 and Tract Toric 1-8x24, for example.

If a thermal clip-on has a picatinny mount, it can usually be lined up in front of a compact prismatic and 2x/3x prismatics do work well with most commercial clip-ons. For example, Burris' RT-3 works very nicely with Burris' BTC-50 thermal clip-on (https://bit.ly/3E1bb2w). Now, that I have been spending some time with different clip-ons, however, I find that with QVGA clip-ons (the ones with 384x288 or similar resolution), I am perfectly happy using them with 2x/3x prismatics. However, with higher resolution VGA clip-ons, while the full field of view is with the scope on ~2x, there is enough resolution to zoom in up to 4x/5x when I am ready to pull the trigger. That's one of the reasons I use an LPVO with Steiner's C35. Between the higher resolution core and very effective image processing, I have enough resolution to zoom in a little. Same goes for the iRay Micro RH25 when used as a clip-on, although with its wider FOV, there is also a benefit to dialing magnification down a little.

One of the things we really discussed with Matt was how much performance modern inexpensive prismatics offer if you are on a budget. Well, if you are on a budget, you might not be looking at thermals all that much. Even budget thermals, if you want something half way decent, are a lot of money.

Before I list the specific prismatics, it is also worth mentioning that with fixed power scopes, for rapid close range performance, you are relying on an offset or piggybacked red dot. If you have sever astigmatism, that might not work for you. In that case, LPVO is your best bet.

Going back to prismatics, the word "budget" is really key here. When we are talking about modern prismatics, we are talking about scopes in the $300 to $500 range. For that money, compared to similarly priced LPVOs, you are getting lighter weight, better image quality, wider FOV and, potentially, better durability. Compared to more expensive LPVOs, you are usually getting better FOV, lighter weight and lower price.

Here are the 2x and higher prismatics that have impressed me in the last couple of years:
PA GLx 2x for $369 https://bit.ly/3vWrUks
PA SLx Micro 3x for $320 https://bit.ly/3KuU7oL
Burris RT-3 3x for $379 https://bit.ly/3yrNUpF
SwampFox Trihawk 3x for $250 https://bit.ly/3uUhxvP
Vortex Spitfire Gen2 5x for $450 https://bit.ly/3ASliZJ
SwampFox Saber 5x for $390 https://www.swampfoxoptics.com/saber-prism-scope-5x36

SwampFox Trihawk and Saber are large prism scopes, so they are comparatively heavy at 17 and 25 ounces respectively. However, even the just released 25 ounce Saber is in the same weight range as an LPVO with mount for less money and with a much more immersive FOV.

The others are rather small and trim designs. I am particularly partial to the 2x GLx from Primary Arms.

To re-iterate, none of these are as good as my Elcan Spetre 4x, but they are a better bang for the buck.

If I was building a starter 5.56 AR for one of my nephews today, for example (their ARs have LPVOs on them), they probably would end up with PA's 3x SLx or SwampFox Trihawk on them and an offset red dot.

For starter AKs or 300Blackout ARs, it would probably be PA's GLx 2x with a red dot.

For a budget large frame AR, I might lean toward a little more magnification and go with one of the 5x options.

Equally critically, these recent advancements with prismatics are not over. There is more coming. I'll release information as soon as I am able to.

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Blast From The Past: Millett ZoomDot RDS

I dug this thing up purely by accident. It has been a long time since I used it for anything, but I am thinking I should, especially as I work on a magnifier video.

MIllet's ZoomDot was a unique red dot sight that had auto brightness and variable dot size from 1MOA to 10MOA.

Early ones, like mine, were made in the US. Millett had some aspirations of selling these to the US military.

I do not think they got very far, then the company was bought by Bushnell and essentially shut down after a little bit. At some point, the manufacturing for the ZoomDot moved to China and it was not really the same.

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Scout Scopes: Burris 2.75x20

Scout scopes are almost like a forgotten art form these days. There is an occasional discussion either on how they are the greatest thing since sliced bread because 1) THE colonel said so 2) if you do not think they are, refer to rule number 1.
Alternatively, the prevailing thought is that they are completely useless and if LPVOs existed in Jeff Cooper's time, there would never be such a thing as scout scopes.
The truth, as is usually the case, resides somewhere in the middle.
Scout scopes do have their place, but they are definitely a niche product. It is, however, an interesting niche.
Scout scope pickings are relatively slim in terms of what's on offer.
Leupold makes a 1.5-4x28 https://alnk.to/gKSibYj
Burris makes a 2-7x32 and 2.75x20
Vortex has a 2-7x32 in the Crossfire line
There are also a few out there from UTG, Aimsports, etc.

I strongly lean toward compact fixed power designs, so Burris 2.75x20 https://alnk.to/cSJCBQx is probably my favourite and is the subject of this ...

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Integrix M1 MRAD Reticle in the 3-18x44

Wind was really making things difficult, but at least this gives you a look at the reticle.
It is a respectable design that is conceptually closer to SKMR reticles than to the ones I usually gravitate to. They also have an M2 that is, I think, a little better.
In the grand scheme of things, the M1 did not take me long to get used to and it is not giving me any real issues.
https://alnk.to/9TaI2kH

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Integrix 3-18x44 Tracking Follow-up

I reached out to Leapers to relay the issues I found with reticle sizing and tracking in the 3-18x44 scope they sent me.

They confirmed that the scope I have here is an engineering model. They also talked to engineering and, apparently, they found the same issues I did with the mrad model and fixed them for the production run.

The MOA model (https://alnk.to/eZIJo9a) is, according to them, spot on. The issues were only present in pre-production mrad scopes.

Once they get production scopes going, I plan to re-visit them. I think the first one to become available will be the 4.5-27x model with the M2 Mrad reticle. I saw it during SHOT and I think it will be more up my alley than the M1, though the latter is still serviceable.

This is strange but once in my lifetime I felt fortunate to be not smart enogh to be in Harvard University...

Memorial Day Sales

I am beginning to see some early Memorial Day Sale emails in my inbox.
If I see anything interesting, I'll add it to this post which will be pinned to the top, rather than inundate you with incessant "it's a sale!" emails. Better keep it all in one spot.

The first one I see is from Opticsplanet. https://alnk.to/cwU58u8
They have all sorts of stuff rom Burris and Steiner discounted including the recently introduced Burris XTR PS 5.5-30x56 for $2199 https://alnk.to/d3Em4Su and the rather unusual Steiner T6Xi 3-18x56 https://alnk.to/ge7ZJBN
Eliminator 6 gets you $400 of bonus bucks to use on something else. https://alnk.to/flycPy8

Tract Optics will be running a 10% storewide sale starting Thursday with the discount code "REMEMBRANCE". While I generally like their products, the one that is really agreeing with me the most is the new 2.5-15x44 with MRAD Eagleman reticle. https://tractoptics.com/toric-uhd-30mm-2-5-15x44-ffp-illuminated-mrad-eagleman-long-range-hunting-rifle-scope/
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First PRS Match is behind me
High Noon at Del Norte

My first PRS match is officially behind me.  It was, I think an officially sanctioned regional PRS match at the shooting range called Del Norte about an hour from me (just east of Rio Rancho).
As I discussed previously, rather than using the rifle I originally prepared for it, I ended up having to change gears at the last moment and slapping a 5-25x56 Tangent on my daughter's 6ARC MiniFIx.  A lightweight 16" Proof barreled 6ARC is not an ideal set up for PRS competition, but, in the grand scheme of things, the rifle did hot hold me back at all.  I had a couple of weights that fit the Q-cert handguard, so I slapped them on there as well, which got the rifle to right around 12lbs.  The balance point was almost where I want it, but not quite.  In all other ways, this was a very handy rifle to shoot.  I am actually thinking of getting a couple more weights that I can stack on it (Sawtooth weights are stackable), so that I can shoot some future local matches with it.  It shoots Hornady's Black 105gr ammo very well (it also shoots 108gr ELD-M and 103gr ELD-X well, but I had a larger supply of Hornady Black ammo on hand).

It chrono'ed pretty consistently for factory ammo.  Here are the measurements for a 20 shot group.

If I were to take out the fastest shot, SD drops down to 8fps.  

In terms of wind performance, it is a 5mph rifle, so slightly better than the 308 ammo I was going to use originally, but not as good as the 6.5CM that was my intended match rifle for this year (we make plans, but then life happens).

I do have to admit that I really enjoyed shooting the match with the MiniFix.  So much so, that I am seriously thinking of building another one for myself, since this rifle is technically my daughter's.

The closest shot we had was a bit over a couple of hundred yards.  The furthest was around 1150.  That was a bit challenging for the 16" barreled 6ARC, especially since the terrain there is tricky and wind is doing strange things.  Morning was relatively quiet wind-wise, but then the wind becamse gusty with changing directions.

It was a one day match with about 30 shooters (six squads) and ten stages.  The 17 year old kid who won the match was in my squad with his dad.  Apparently he is on the US team, so it should not be surrpising that he won.  He was very good.

Overall level of the shooters in the match was quite good.  I really was not sure what to expect.  Somewhat paradoxically, the only matches that I have shot in so far are the much larger two day NRL Hunter matches.  In those, I am just out of the bottom third in terms of skill level.  In this match, it was pretty much in the same spot, I think.  

The terrain was a little bit like Cameo, I think (I have been there, but not shot there), with some angle changes and sufficient vegetation to make getting on target occasionally troublesome. 

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Getting back on the horse, little by little

My original plan was to do a livestream on Thursday of this week, but I think I'll push it out to next week.  A few days at home is doing wonders for my recovery, but my voice is still not quite there.  I do not think any of you are looking to listen to me cough for two hours straight.

Also, I am going to try to shoot that local PRS match this coming Saturday, so doign a livestream next week after the match is likely to be more productive.  It is my first one, so I fully expect that I will screw it all up.  It should be a good learning experience.  I do not have a dedicated PRS rifle and I am not looking to set one up jsut yet.  If I like it, I'll put something together, but as far as competition goes, my focus is really on UKD matches like NRL Hunter, Competition Dynamics, etc.  My 6.5CM is not back yet, so I'll just shoot it with my 308 FIx.  It is not ideal, but it will do just fine for my purposes.  I am in no danger of winning anything either way and this will stress my ability to read wind.  A secondary purpse here is that I am not 100% certain what rifle I will take on a mule deer hunt with later this year, but it will be either something new to test or this 308.  Now that I think about it, the 308 is going with me regardless either as a primary rifle or as backup.  The rifle shoots, so if I miss, I know it is on me.

For the match, I have Burris XTR PS 5.5-30x56 scope on the 308 Fix.  I think the way they did the heads up display in these is a meaningful improvement over conventional riflescopes.

https://alnk.to/d3EjPHC or https://alnk.to/8iVRlGN

Optically, I think XTR Pro is a little better, but the EO integration in the XTR PS is, I think, in advantage.

In parallel, I am looking at the replacement AAC ammo (they replaced the faulty ammo and I have chrono results on it) and testing the optics of the 40mm scopes in parallel.

 

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A first look at Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42
MPVOs are finally getting some attention

Here are some initial thoughts on the Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42.

I finally had a chance to shoot with it both supported and unsupported, which is an important part of figuring out how usable an optic is.

I found what looks to be more accurate specifications in the manual that came with the H6Xi, so the spec table is now updated:

To re-iterate from an earlier post, Eurooptic is selling the H6Xi 2-12x42 for $1350 and at that price, it is easily the best deal going in this category: https://alnk.to/90ALO3C

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