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Choosing a general purpose AR-15

If you are in the market for an AR-15 of some sort, options are numerous, to put it mildly. I have a bunch of them and most I have built myself from pieces. For quite a few years, I would build something, play with it, note what I'd like to change, sell it, and build a new one. Lather, rinse, repeat.
For a little while now, my line-up of different ARs has not really been changing very much, which probably means that I have gotten to the point where I actually like the builds that I have and they range from an ultra-light to folding to DMR-type ARs in 5.56x45/223Rem. Then there are a couple of 300Blackout AR-pistols, one 6.5Grendel AR that has been with me the longest of all the ARs I have on hand, one 458SOCOM, one 6ARC I built recently and a weird AR/AK hybrid (KS-47) that shoots 7.62x39 and takes AK magazines.
A friend of mine approached me recently with a somewhat differently phrased question than I have heard before. It was something along these lines: "you lost all of your guns in a massive fire/tragic boating accident/pick a disaster of your choice. You have nothing left. Knowing what you know now, where do you start rebuilding your collection? What AR do you buy first?"
I gave him a lengthy treatise on what I would do, but as far as ARs go, I would just recreate a couple that I already have since I like them, most notably, the one I talked about in this post:
https://darklordofoptics.locals.com/post/1252977/guns-of-the-dark-lord-part-3-ar-15

He looked at that and said: this looks to be expensive and a lot of work. I tried to make a feeble argument that once all the pieces are in, I can put this together in less than an hour. He made a compelling argument that it does not quite work this way for sane people who have not spent last few decades obsessively tinkering with guns.

He was specifically trying to get me to identify an AR or two that I would buy as a complete gun. I brought up the Honey Badger. He looked at the pricetag and laughed in my face. Now, I happen to think it is worth the money, but it is certainly not a budget option.

As an aside, if I did not have budget limitations, the first ARI would buy if I lost all of my guns, would be Q's 300Blackout Honey Badger pistol with Tash Panda Suppressor, Steiner CQT sight (https://bit.ly/38EgP0h) and PA's tiny micro magnifier (https://bit.ly/3DnfGFR). That's around $14k, so I totally see why that is unlikely to be a popular option.

Since the conversation wasn't going anywhere, we pretty much started haggling on the boundary conditions. He wanted to limit it to a few hundred dollars and you can get a decent enough AR for under $1k, but there will be some compromises made that I would rather avoid.

We decided to take a step up from the low end stuff, but significantly moderate my snobbish tendencies at the same time.

Once you take that one step up, you end with a plethora of increasingly competent choices.

Before I get to those choices, I will still mention, that I really STRONGLY prefer to build the lower part myself with the trigger, grip and stock I prefer. Then again, I am kinda particular in this regard.

With that out of the way, in terms of best bang for the buck, your best choice is probably one of the rifles from Palmetto's PSA Custom line. PSA has really stepped up in terms of quality in recent years. There is a bunch of good options there and I would go for something like this 16" barrel rifle: https://bit.ly/39xLzAV. It comes with a 223Wylde chamber and upgraded trigger. They have a bunch of different color options, so there is a lot to choose from. At $1100, I do not think I could do better price-wise building one if choosing similar quality components.

Historically, in this category, I would just recommend something from BCM like the RECCE-16 (https://bit.ly/3F4Sihh). It is on the upper end of the price range I would prefer to stay in given the boundary conditions ($1700), but BCM does good work. My one beef with it is that it has a 5.56 NATO chamber, while I generally prefer 223 Wylde or something along those lines. The trigger is essentially a cleaned up Mil-spec trigger, but it is serviceable.

As another side note, Matt at Everyday marksman has a couple of really detailed articles on choosing general purpose ARs. I always thought it was odd how he can use such sound thinking to come up with completely incorrect conclusions... (I am sure he would read this anyway, but I figured I should tag him just in case @TheMarksman ). Interestingly, the exact BCM rifle I talk about above is also on his list. That may be the first time he and I agree on an AR configurations.

That brings us back to what I would go with for similar money, which is one of the FoldAR offerings. I do not recall if I talked about FoldAR in any detail in the past, but if I havn't I should.

I have a thing for takedown ARs and theirs is the best one I am aware of. I have their Gen1 folding upper from the very first batch they manufactured years ago (naturally I put it on a lower I built myself, but I already covered that), and they have made several meaningful improvements since then. It is available with three chambers: 223Wylde, 300Blackout and 6.5Grendel. For a general purpose AR, 223Wylde is the way to go (https://bit.ly/3s4oPP5), but if you want to hunt with it, 6.5Grendel should be at the top of your list). They recently started using an adjustable bolt carrier from Bootleg (I have been switching all of my builds to it as well), so that if you choose to get a suppressor at a later point, you can adapt the gas system to it. The trigger is ALG's cleaned up Mil-Spec trigger, i.e. more or less the same thing as what BCM uses.
The barrel is nitrided vs BCM's phosphated barrel with chrome-lined bore. Both are good options, although I tend to lean toward nitrided barrels more often than not. Chrome-lined barrels are harder to make accurate, but BCM does pretty well with them.
Then, of course, there is a trick to it: the bloody thing folds in half. Then, it unfolds and returns to zero. Mine has been returning to zero for a few years now. They rethought the interface between the barrel and the upper receiver and it seems to re-engage very consistently.
It adds around six ounces to the weight of the rifle if memory serves me right, but it still clocks in barely above six pounds as equipped.
Mine is set up with a fixed length ultralight stock, so it is bit lighter than that.
When folded, the rifle neatly fits into a 22" long Pelican Air 1525 case, which is how I store it. FoldAR ships all of their guns with a backpack. This is a very easy gun to transport discreetly.
At the moment, I have PA's 3x Microprism (https://bit.ly/3KuU7oL) on it with XS' XTI DWT sights (https://bit.ly/3y4J1nO). It is a very lightweight sighting combination for not a lot of money. The added benefit is that it is of comparatively low profile, so it does not catch on things all that much. That handguard has M-lok slots, so adding accessories is pretty straightforward. I've got a Streamlight flashlight attached that I added at some point for a night class and kept it there.
Is it worth the premium over the much less expensive PSA? To me it is.

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Vortex Defender XL Green

This is the second time Vortex' Defender XL crosses my path. I was very impressed with the original red dot version, so I was curious to see how the one with the green dot works for my eyes.
To get the details, see the attached video.
The cliff's notes version is that I am just as impressed with this one. In terms of collimation quality and parallax control, it is quite exceptional.
https://alnk.to/881BEV1

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Primary Arms HTX-1 US Made red dot sight

I've had this RDS for a bit over two months now and I am beyond pleased with it.
Despite some spirited abuse, it keeps soldiering on.
https://alnk.to/1C9z5dw
It is a very nice RDS and being fully made in the US does not hurt either.

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Delta Stryker 3.5-21x44 Wrap-up

This scope comes up a lot since I really like the configuration. It is time to do a final wrap-up of it.

It is one of my favourite scopes on the market today, especially for the money, since I naturally lean toward general purpose-ish designs. Still, while the 3.5-21x44 Stryker is relatively compact and light, it still clearly leans toward the precision side of things, which suites me very well.

https://annexdefense.com/optics-and-optic-accessories/delta-optics/

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Had to switch to a different streaming service

Rumble Studio crapped out on me. so I hadd to stream using a different service

Well, imagine THAT....

I wonder if all of the Youtube frauds who spent the last few weeks shamelessly lying for clicks are going to go apologize to Sig now.

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/air-force-m18-arrest/

Area 419 and Odinworks Muzzlebrakes raffle

Just a reminder: on Tuesday, August 12th at around 7pm, Aaron and I will go over out impressions from the TRT Sniper Challenge in a bit more detail. We have the course of fire, so we'll go over how the stages were set up and the challenges presented by this rather unusual (by my standards match).

Somewhere half way through the livestream, I will raffle off a couple of items I picked up off of the prize table.

One is the Area 419 Hellfire Competition brake.

The other is a tunable brake from Odinworks.

The pictures for both are attached.

In order to enter the raffle, you have to be a member of this community (darklordofoptics.locals.com). You do not have to be a paying supporter. A free account is enough for this.

If you would like to enter the raffle, send me an email with the following information:
-the item you are going for (Area419 or Odinworks)
-your username from this Locals community

send the email to [email protected]

I will accept entries until ~8PM on ...

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Steiner C35 Gen2 Mount
from Annex Defense

The production version of the Annex Defense's mount for the Steiner C35 Gen2 thermal Clip-on is finally here.  At $1600 (when this is published), the clip-on is an absolute steal.

I've had it for a few days, but, me being the good old paranoid me, I spent some time shooting with it before posting anything.  I had a couple of days with it prior to last weekend's match in Montana and a couple of days after.  Another to pop it on and off a few times and get a couple of hundred rounds of 6.5Grendel through the gun to see if anything shakes loose.  So far so good.

The C35 Gen2 clip-on is sitting on my 6.5Grendel AR as a part of a long running "Only One" project that I have.  It pairs perfectly with the Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42 scope.

Here is what comes in the box from Annex Defense:

The order in which the whole thing comes togethe is pretty stragihtforward:

-slide the thermal washer onto the threaded interface extending out of the back of the clip-on

-spin the mount itself onto the threaded interface (the mount is threaded on the inside) until it can go no further

-rotate the mount so that the clip-on is properly lined up to the picatinny clamp

-once you are happy with the alignment, use the three nylon tipped set screws (you'll need an allen wrench for that) to lock in the position of the clip-on in the mount.  You need very little torque on the set screws.  They are there for one reason and one reason only: to keep the mount from spinning when you tighten the timing nut in the next step

-spin the timing nut onto the threaded interface of the clip-on to lock the mount in place.  You should not need the timing nut wrench, but one is in there just in case.

Here are the pieces laid out in the order in which you will need them.

When you are done, it should look like this:

Note that the mount normaly comes with two T20 screws.  I am using two thumbscrews instead, since I am popping the mount on and off all the time.  It seems to be staying put with the thumbscrews just fine.  I am hoping Annex will offer the thumbscrews as an option.

It is not quite an equivalent of a QD mount, but we needed something with an extremely low profile clamp to fit under scopes with fairly large objectives.  As is, the mount works with most scope that have objective lens diameter of 50mm or less.

I am using with with Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42 and the two work together exceedingly well.

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Scoping Gas Guns
an interesting question that acme in via PM

I received this question via a private message and thought it was interesting enough to answer it in some detail.  I have been thinking a lot about appropriate optics for gas guns recently, so this came it at the right time.

 

Here is what I ahve been messing with last few days:

 

Above: 18" WOA barrel 5.56 AR-15 with Burris XTR PS 5.5-30x56 on it.

Below: 22" Satern barrel 224Valkyrie AR-15 with Delta Stryker 3.5-21x44 on it.


For obvious reasons, I am not posting who asked the question, but what I'll do is send him a link to this article, so that he gets an answer and we might have a good discussion.
Here is what I received:

Had a question for you
I have a Knights Armament SR25 6.5CM with a 14.5" barrel - I plan on shooting 100 - 600 yards at targets at 100 yd intervals
I am favoring the TT 315P with an Aimpont Acro mounted on top -( see you liked the TT315M) - would that be enough magnification?
I saw the SB SB 5-20 which offer more top end - I like the turrets on the Tanget and tooless Zero - what are your thoughts between the 2?
If I stayed 400 and under - how do you see the TT315P with the Acro Red dot against the SB 1-8 Short Dot (saw your review on that)

There isn't really enough information in the question for a simple answer, so let's consider a couple of options.

What is the gun for? 

For shooting medium range (out to 600) with occasional close range use?  If yes, go with a conventional scope and offset or piggybacked RDS.

For shooting at close distance with occasional med/long range use? If yes, so with a nice LPVO like the above mentioned S&B Short Dot 1-8x24 https://alnk.to/3J8vlFv.  It is quite capable at long range, but where it will really knock your socks off is up close and personal.

The question of what is enough magnification is pretty personal.  For me, 3-15x is plenty, but I shoot a lot off of the tripod and off of barricades which likely influences my decision.  For that, my 3-15x50 TT315M Tangent works great and 6mrad of elevation is plenty.  https://alnk.to/gVNkUXB  175gr #08 out of a shoter tube will drop in the 5 to 5.5mrad range at 600 yards.

For a dedicated long range semi-auto, other than the looks, there isn't much downside to a larger scope, which is why I set up Burris' XTR PS on the 5.56 AR pictured above.  It is for my son to learn to shoot at distance and to us in next year's BOTC match.  https://alnk.to/gp33YuR

If I were setting up an accurate semi-auto and wanted a high mag scope for it, I would likely lean toward March 4.5-28x52. https://alnk.to/dLjHgjh  It is compact, relatively light and very good optically for any use other than the dead of the night (for which we should be using clip-ons anyway).

S&B Short Dot is a very nice scope, but March is a newer design and, other than the lowest light, has an edge in terms of image fidelity and stray light control.

TT315P Tangent is a veyr ncie scope and toolles turrets are appealing.  However, there is a weight penalty to that.  For me, that was not worth it.  I ahve 5-25x56 and 7-35x Tangents and those toolless turrets are spectacular.  However, in a 3-15x50, I am quit ecomfortable with simpler 6mrad per turn knobs on the TT315M.

 

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A morning with a chronograph

When I tell people that I am using Hornady's factory ammo for matches, I get occasionally surprised looks.  Occasionally.  Most of the time, I get fairly condescending looks from handloaders who would not let a factory round pollute the chambers of their precision rifles if their lives depended on it.

To be fair, if I had the time, I might be reloading as well.  I might be able to do better than modern factory ammo, but the truth is that I am not a quarter MOA shooter, so a lot of that would be lost on me.  The UKD matches I fidn most interesting can be done by a competent shooter with a 1MOA gun.  I am working on that first part.  I reload when I have to, but if I can get factory ammo that's not outrageously expensive and that shoots well, I will go with that every time.

I looked around and realized that I have about 600 rounds of Hornady 147gr 6.5CM factory ammo from two lots.  400 rounds from one that I will use during the match later this month.  The remainder I will likely use up practicing prior to that.

I woke up early and snuck out to the range while my family was still asleep earlier today.

I set up in the 100 yard tunnel we have.  I took my four shots to zero with the lot I plan to use for the match.  Then I fired a six shot ~0.7MOA group.  That's accurate enough for my purposes.

Here are the chronograph results:

It is slow, but accurate and consistent.

Then I shot a five round group of Hornady 147gr ammo from the other lot.

Both of those lots are not too shabby for factory ammo.  POI was within 0.2mrad between the two lots, all laterally.  

 

I had some other ammo on hand, so I fired two five shot groups with Berger 144gr hybrid target ammo and Sako TRG 136gr.

Here is what I got for five rounds of Berger:

That's not a ton of statistics, but it is a data point.  The group was ~1.1MOA

 

Here the data for the Sako TRG 136gr ammo:

This ammo showed some mild pressure signs, but not too significant.  

Again, this is not a ton of data, but Hornady is looking pretty decent here.

I'll repeat the zero retention and consistency tests a couple more times between now and June 18th when we head to Wyoming.

I might pick up a couple more boxes of Hornady 147gr from a different lot to get some more data.

More to come.

 

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